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Posted 10 May 2009 - 10:12 PM

Finally, an absinthe that fulfills the promises Ted made to us so many years ago. I’ll leave it to Dinky to write a review about how this absinthe is like rolling naked in a Swiss meadow with wildflowers tickling his uglies. Though not the first to prove that a small batch process can be done right on a large scale, this is the first commercial product, in my opinion, that offers people an accurate example of what quality vintage absinthe tasted like. No hype, no bullshit, no distiller’s proofs, just a well-crafted absinthe that is true to the standards of a century ago. Now, if it just came in a wooden box…;-)
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 04:23 AM

What I've noticed is that it absolutely hates anything but ice cold water (if it's not: no louche, no taste). Other absinthes are more forgiving of a springtime sink drip. I wonder whether Marc made a zero tolerance absinthe on purpose...

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 05:42 AM

What Cros said.

I've tried it with nearly room temperature water. It still louches adequately, and tastes fine, although it certainly has a silkier mouth feel, and the flavors pop more with the colder water.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 10:00 AM

Sure rub it in. The bottles have been sitting at my house for about a week, and I've been away. Grrrrr. Dammit!
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 09:22 PM

I wonder whether Marc made a zero tolerance absinthe on purpose...

Nah, he just sent you the only distiller's proof onacuz yer special.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 11:41 PM

Must've left very precise instructions to DrinkupNY. And how did he get hold of my wife's name?

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:37 PM

He is a sneaky one.
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Posted 13 May 2009 - 07:33 PM

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 02:47 PM

I must be doing something wrong... I used ice cold water with an extemely slow drip and i still can't get it to louche.

I think I got a bad bottle or something cus mine just tastes like vodka...
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 05:30 PM

I've gone through about 3/4 of a bottle, over multiple sessions. I've given this absinthe every excuse I could to live up my expectations... and it has fallen far far short.

On the good side.
The flavors are well balanced and the base alcohol doesn't have any harsh aftertastes or scents. It's got nice color and clarity. The bottle is classic yet modern. Everything that should be in a great absinthe is there... only... it's just barely there.

As most experienced absinthe drinkers have come to realize, the louche is usually indicative of the amount of oils in the drink. Low louche usually equals low flavor. Such is true in Pacifique.
While I applaud Gassy in NOT using tons of star anise to boost louche, flavor and mouthfeel, I'm a bit saddened by how light tasting, light looking and light in the mouth his first attempt at Co. absinthe is.

Since he knows more about distillation than 99% of the people here I'm not going to start telling him where he went wrong, but a GIANT boost in oils will be required to bring this absinthe up to where it should be. I'm sorry man, but you do know better. Let us know when you build up more tails or take a few lessons in Tex-Wreck.
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 07:22 PM

Funny, I had no problems with the louche. There shouldn't be much difference from bottle to bottle this early on.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:20 AM

I didn't, either.

The following pic was taken with Pacifique avec room temp. waer™ for that matter.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:36 AM

There is a definate lack of herbs in mine... I have tried it 3 different times and I have sinked it every time BLECH!!!

Was there 2 batches? Can I get a replacement for my bottle?

btw I thought we all agreed that a "Absinthe Superior" was made from grape alcohol like the originals... I stopped using vodka as a base back in 2004. Quoting Ricky Winston: "The cheapest grape alcohol base will give you a smother end product then the best grain alcohol" Boy was he right...

Say what you want about Hiram but his Marteau Absinthe kicks the shit outa this crap...

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:10 AM

Obviously, he knows as much about absinthe as he does porn.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:55 AM

He's right. the Marteau kicks ass though it doesn't have as much thujone as the Strong 68 or the Ulex.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 05:21 AM

Let us know when you build up more tails or take a few lessons in Tex-Wreck.


The Pacifique I have louches about on a par with the pre-ban Edouard I've tasted, and the mouth feel (and flavor) is very similar, and I think that's what Zman was shooting for. The Tex Wreck (Nimes clone) I've tried was superb, and had that trademark thick louche, and really creamy mouth feel, but it wasn't a take on the Montpelier style. From the few pre-bans I've tried, I noticed a wide range of louches, from the relatively weak Premier Fils, to the really dense Berger. The Montpelier fell somewhere in the middle, perhaps a bit on the lighter end, (in color, as well) but it seemed to have more flavor than one might have expected from its appearance, and I'd say the same for the Pacifique I've enjoyed.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 05:32 AM

I gave it a try again last night , sinked it . Ice cold water produced a pale louche but the flavor was thin and oily . To say it tastes and louches like pre ban is a little off , I've had plenty of pre ban and none of it tasted like Pacifique. I like Marc and I think he can do better . He might have to give up some hard won preconceived notions though .
I am starting to think there are batch differences , what I find in the glass is so much different than what some have reported .
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 09:12 AM

I think Pacifique is an "Un Emile" clone...

The "Bud-Lite" of absinthe! Less taste, more sinking lol!!!
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 01:19 PM

<From the few pre-bans I've tried, I noticed a wide range of louches>

Posted Image One example as regards what Old Man is sayin' about.

Pacifique louched today with the same waer™:

Posted Image

The taste from that batch has not changed a iota, although the less frozen waer™ makes the coriander be more assertive what Assstomp wuz talkin' about sum time ago. Still, it is tasty, well-crafted Montpellier*. I wood not compare de Nimes with Montpellier for that matter since they are so far away from each other and different herbal concoctions built their bases, if Texas Nimes remains still the best expression of de Nimes style to date-Belle Amie is in its infancy, if ya ask me.

Sayin' Pacifique is pre-ban alike is not quite true, it has the proper louche and tastes like Montpellier should and prolly wood back in day, but not like 100 yrs old Montpellier (dunno, Junod?); yet, out of many on the American market, Pacifique and Walton Waters lead the 'avantguardia di qualita', with Leopold slowly joining in the ranks. I have not had Vieux Carre yet, so cannot form an opinion whether it should be in that class or not™. In fact, the American market is thrivin', whereas the European market is sadly in sudden stupor and stagnation.

*I must admit that as far as the products of Pacific Distillery are concerned, I DO like Voyager gin betterer than Pacifique, although it is not absinthe. Same opinion is shared by my Parents. Butt, it is just an observatory digression.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 01:38 PM

Texas Nimes remains still the best expression of de Nimes style to date


Agreed, although the wormwood was a bit less assertive than I expected.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:32 PM

Is it possible that a batch only had the coloring step done and not the initial wormwood and anise? That's kinda what it tastes like...There is absolutely no "creamyness" just alcohol blech... I'm gonna try to add anise and re-distill it and see if it can be improved...
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:47 PM

I think that the oils settle by weight over time and if your have a large amount and don't agitate it some before bottling, you will get the weak stuff off the top and the richer stuff from the bottom. I think this happens with pre-ban as I've had weak louching Pernod Fee and I've seen it turgid as mud. I could be wrong but I think this explains the difference between bottles. Any thoughts?
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:04 PM

At 60% or above, Anethole will tend to stay in suspension. I really doubt that it will settle down to bottom of the bottle. At least not in the kind of concentrations we are likely to see in an Absinthe.
It seems more likely that that some folks received a different bottling than some of the others.
A side by side comparison might help in determining what the differences are.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 07:31 PM

I would hope that different bottles would all be the same...
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 09:34 PM

Add one more to the "My Pacifique doesn't louche good" group. I still love the smell and the taste, but I'm easily pleased in that department. If an absinthe doesn't completely suck, I'll usually like it. The only reason I've been so disappointed with the Pacifique is because it didn't live up to Absomphe's endless musings about how fucking great it is. I expected a lot more out of it after all that and it didn't deliver. It's good, but it ain't that good.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 10:07 PM

Quote Phoenix "I've been so disappointed with the Pacifique is because it didn't live up to Absomphe's endless musings about how fucking great it is."

That is why no-one pays any attention to his reviews becuse he is a notorious kiss ass that will sell his soul for free absinthe lol!!!!
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 10:33 PM

Of course, it's onacuz Ass-bumph
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:57 AM

free absinthe


Where?

I haven't even had a free drink at the distillery yet.

Not that it wasn't offered.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:19 AM

The only reason I've been so disappointed with the Pacifique is because it didn't live up to Absomphe's endless musings about how fucking great it is.


If you'd been here long enough, you'd know Absomphe can be a little overenthusiastic at times about his favourite absinthe(s). Some years ago, I really got tired of hearing the Verte de Fougerolles broken record.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:31 AM

Indeed™! Although Paul Devoille has paid much of attention while browsin' old protocols, what not and is as close to the proper traditional-to-the-core colourin' as possible, in other aspects, it cannot be betterer than Pacifique.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 11:13 AM

Indeed? Wazzup with the Geek Chorus?

Your Tits definitely seemed Absent in 2004, Tansyman.

If you'd been here long enough, you'd know Absomphe can be a little overenthusiastic at times about his favourite absinthe(s).


At least you topped my over-exuberance by a point on the Jade Edouard DP, though.

Edited by Absomphe, 27 May 2009 - 11:41 AM.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 11:32 AM

In 2004 I wuz still lurkin' butt readin' everythin' nonetheless :P
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 11:45 AM

You lurked for years?

Who'da thunk you were ever the shy type.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 11:48 AM

Ha! And ya thought ya knew dat well.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:26 PM

In 2004 I wuz still jerkin' butt

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:30 PM

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:54 PM

Don't iffen wanna know what ya were doin'.
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 02:52 PM

I'm still waiting to hear some input from Gassy on this one.

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Posted 31 May 2009 - 06:14 PM

Please Gassy, add more herbs! Let your tails develope more and for God's sake please use grape spirits!

This kind of silence coupled with all the ravings in the forums is actually hurting our Cause!!!!
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 06:15 PM

Wait! Is Gassy really Opie??????????????????????
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 09:30 PM

We have a cause?
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Posted 31 May 2009 - 10:21 PM

I'm sure it has something to do with piss porn and Logan Filth.
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 03:23 AM

We have a cause?


Yep, to get great absinthe in every liquor store in the US!!!

Then to get pics of all the drunken girls peeing out Logan Fils...
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Posted 01 June 2009 - 04:57 PM

We have a cause?


Yes, yes we do.

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Posted 01 June 2009 - 06:47 PM

Damn , she can swallow a forearm okay.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:08 AM

I like that in women.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 03:16 AM

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 03:14 PM

I'm really looking foreward to giving this Absinthe a second try...
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:30 PM

I'm not so sure. I'm pretty disappointed... on many levels.
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:46 PM

Now you know how the women you've dated felt.
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:27 PM

Would "women"
be a typo error,
perchance?
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:58 PM

Sorry about that, butt there's no reason to act like Sixer over one "small" mistake.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:07 AM

The extreme difference between Gassy's prototypes and Pacifique lead me to believe that it could and should be better...
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:13 AM

Well, a big help this thread was.
Differing opinions among the few opinions I trust.

And damn, I must've been gone a while.
Somebody done upgraded this dive.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:23 AM

The extreme difference between Gassy's "prototypes" and Pacifique lead me to believe that it could and should be better...

The extreme difference between what Tits showed and what I can see lead me to believe that it can be. Time will tell, I'm sure.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:18 AM

What I got and what tits showed are 2 different things . Absomphe is not drinking the same Pacifique that I bought 3 bottles of.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:51 AM

I thought my bottle tasted lighter and thinner than what I was served by Marc at the DUNY tasting. I thought maybe I was smashed at the DUNY party and my tastebuds weren't reliable, but there's more to it than that. After speaking with him about the differences, I'm sure the next batch will be improved. In terms of balance I thought the bottle I bought was pretty good, it just wasn't assertive and there was very little aroma.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 05:57 AM

I'm sure that's true, Kirk.

My bottles were from the first run, and Boggy reviewed his around the same time.

Funny thing is, with the recycling of tails, I would have thought yours would be a tad richer, rather than considerably thinner.

Something else must be accounting for the big disparity, obviously.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 08:22 AM

Now you know how the women you've dated felt.

~y~ bring that up?

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:32 AM

Ha!
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:34 AM

That is soooo 2004, kinda like drinking absinthe.
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:24 AM

I have little doubt that most of the Pacifique aside from the flawed batch will be quite good. The question that comes to my mind is: Shouldn't the folks that spent their money and got the flawed batch be compensated with replacements?
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:46 AM

That's not a bad idea. I'd be happy to return my 2/3 full bottle in exchange for a batch without the flaw, which hopefully wouldn't be a total loss for Pacific Distillery, since they could rectify the returned absinthe.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 11:58 AM

I'm sure that would cause some kind of legal problem with the state of Washington.
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 12:53 PM

Doubtless, although that's a damn shame.

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

I'm sure that would cause some kind of legal problem with the state of Washington.


Yeah, probably would. I'm not gonna be a hard ass and demand a refund or anything. I think any new distiller should be cut slack with the very first introduction of their product. I think the comments should be blunt and honest, but it's practically a sure thing that the problem will never occur again and the next batch of Pacifique will be very good. If not, then we can call up the lynch mob. ; )

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:31 AM

I think that the oils settle by weight over time and if your have a large amount and don't agitate it some before bottling, you will get the weak stuff off the top and the richer stuff from the bottom.

Exactly. Some of the oils are not in solution but in an unstable emulsion that tends to be separated by gravity. I ran into this when I measured the ABV of a (relatively) large batch that had been resting for weeks. To my astonishment the ABV had increased significantly. That would only be possible if it had decreased near the bottom of the container. After stirring the batch, the ABV went back to normal.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:49 AM

I will personally volunteer to sample all new batches of Pacifique to make sure that they meet our standards...
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 04:47 AM

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 06:48 AM

I think that the oils settle by weight over time and if your have a large amount and don't agitate it some before bottling, you will get the weak stuff off the top and the richer stuff from the bottom.

Exactly. Some of the oils are not in solution but in an unstable emulsion that tends to be separated by gravity. I ran into this when I measured the ABV of a (relatively) large batch that had been resting for weeks. To my astonishment the ABV had increased significantly. That would only be possible if it had decreased near the bottom of the container. After stirring the batch, the ABV went back to normal.


You know, I think you may have just hit upon something that's been bugging me for a few years now. The samples of PF 1914 that were bottled from the demijohn casks that Oxy discovered seemed to not be quite as rich, aromatic and thick-louched as other PF examples I have had. It isn't easy to agitate a demijohn, so perhaps whatever was decanted reflected the gradation from low to high ABV you are describing. That certainly would explain the "very green" samples, which I would expect to be higher ABV and retain their color better than the lower alc % stuff from the bottom of the demijohn. I thought the PF "very green" smelled nice, but its louche was surprisingly light compared to other PF samples I had tried, only a couple of steps denser than the one batch of Pacifique people are having the issue with. The heavier oils probably fell out of solution.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:37 AM

It's easier to agitate a full john.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:10 PM

I don't buy that.
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Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:16 PM

You don't have to.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:30 AM

I wonder if Gassy will use grape spirits????
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:50 AM

I doubt it.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 05:12 AM

You don't have to.

I was talking to Porky.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 06:34 AM

I doubt you buy either the heavier oils theory or the girl in the platform boots. Both are rather questionable.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:29 AM

You don't believe in Entropy? If you let it sit long enough everything in it would dissociate.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 07:54 AM

I believe in entropy as it pertains to my life, not absinthe.

I've had samples from several bottles of the PF14 including the green. They were all wonderful. None were light in oils.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 09:41 AM

I don't buy that.


We all buy that the little bit of sediment you will see sometimes at the bottom of a naturally colored absinthe is due to tiny particles from the coloring herbs falling out of solution, don't we? Most of us shake or agitate a bottle of naturally colored absinthe before pouring, do we not? If coloring herb particles can fall out of solution if left alone for a period of time, why can't some oils?

And I never said the "Very Green" PF 1914 was light in oils. It was just a little lighter than other samples of Pernod Fils I've had.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:10 AM

Most of us shake or agitate a bottle of naturally colored absinthe before pouring, do we not?

Nope, never have, never will. Ever!
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:14 AM

I don't think oils separate out in the way that particles from coloration herbs do but as they do have different molecular specific gravities, I think that over a long period of time undisturbed, they can settle to different levels (in the bottle/demijohn) of concentration, especially the heavier oils like the Anise. The PF14 I got was greenish amber and was delightful but the louche was thin. Another similar colored batch I tasted recently had a very dense louche. There may be other considerations but simply "not buying it" leaves one waiting for other theories or a way to scientifically counter the possibility.

It would be great if someone with enough undisturbed preban could test this by carefully extracting samples from top to bottom and testing them.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:18 AM

Yeah, I'll get right on that.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:23 AM

The key word is "solution" . The plant material you see at the bottom of a bottle was never in solution .
I have no problem with the idea that an undisturbed absinthe could stratify , if left undisturbed long enough , (50 years?) but the slightest movement would disturb that .
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:24 AM

We all buy that the little bit of sediment you will see sometimes at the bottom of a naturally colored absinthe is due to tiny particles from the coloring herbs falling out of solution, don't we?

Not exactly, the sediment that you are talking about are mainly small bits of cellulose that coagulate and fall to the bottom. This material is not soluble to begin with and therefore is unable to "fall out of solution" as you are asserting.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:53 AM

I am not sure that I believe the "top or bottom of the demijohn" theory in regards to the 1914 PF. Because that Absinthe was transfered to the bottles nearly a century ago, it would be impossible to prove it either way.
I once recall seeing a bottle of Spanish Anice Seco that had crystallized anethole at the bottom. The stuff at the top still had high oil concentration. I tend to think the stuff at the bottom was due to low alcoholic levels of the product combined with a very high over saturation of anethole. I do not believe that gravity alone will pull anethole out of solution. At least not in the concentration levels we see in a typical Absinthe. And then of course, I could be completely wrong.
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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:30 PM

We all buy that the little bit of sediment you will see sometimes at the bottom of a naturally colored absinthe is due to tiny particles from the coloring herbs falling out of solution, don't we?

Not exactly, the sediment that you are talking about are mainly small bits of cellulose that coagulate and fall to the bottom.


Ah, that makes sense, as you and Kirk said cellulose isn't really soluble in water or ethanol.

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:36 PM

I am not sure that I believe the "top or bottom of the demijohn" theory in regards to the 1914 PF. Because that Absinthe was transfered to the bottles nearly a century ago, it would be impossible to prove it either way.
I once recall seeing a bottle of Spanish Anice Seco that had crystallized anethole at the bottom. The stuff at the top still had high oil concentration.


I've seen anethole crystals form in absinthe that was held at a cold temperature for long enough. Maybe it spent some time accidentally refrigerated or something?

Wish I knew more organic chem, I'd like to figure this one out. I've seen a bottle of tails that sat for one year separate dramatically, with water rising to the top and the bottom getting seriously murky. Tails of course are very low in ethanol though. I think with something that is much higher alcohol than tails, it would take much longer for the oils to precipitate because anethole is more soluble in ethanol than in water, but I don't see any good reason why it wouldn't eventually happen.

If somebody here had access to some heavy duty lab gear, I'd love to see x-ray crystallography and NMR of both fresh and pre-ban anethole....

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:37 PM

Most of us shake or agitate a bottle of naturally colored absinthe before pouring, do we not?

Nope, never have, never will. Ever!


Why not? Does it hurt the absinthe?

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:04 PM

Well, it stands to reason that if the oils don't really drop out of solution, then the only thing you'd be doing is stirring up any cellulose sediment and adding it into the drink, which would be akin to shaking up a bottle conditioned beer before pouring it. You wouldn't do that, would you?

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 05:29 AM

Absinthe isn't carbonated.

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 07:18 AM

Most of us shake or agitate a bottle of naturally colored absinthe before pouring, do we not?

Nope, never have, never will. Ever!


Why not? Does it hurt the absinthe?

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 02:03 PM

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:51 PM

I had high hopes for round 1...
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 05:27 PM

Unfortunately I don't think anyone on the East coast got to taste Round 1.

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:07 PM

Hopefully we'll get the new and improved "round" then.
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 07:11 PM

The last time I poured a glass for me and a friend on a roll , I took one sip from my glass and reached over and snatched the other away from my friend before he could try it .
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 09:07 PM

Imagine how I felt after talking it up to several people, who purchased bottles assuming it was the "real" shit based on my recomendation... I kinda felt like I did after the first opie scam.
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Posted 07 June 2009 - 09:10 PM

BUT.

Since I know Marc, and respect the shit out of him. I will give him a chance.

Sometimes shit happens, I only hope it happens just once.

(although this time I'm not telling anyone to buy anything).
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 03:56 AM

Same here...

The last time I felt like this was the first time I tried LuShit...
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 04:13 AM

Just remember.
Of all of the hype, none was from Marc.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 04:46 AM

True , he's just the guy that made it and sold it to me .
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Posted 08 June 2009 - 06:54 AM

Just remember.
Of all of the hype, none was from Marc.


Accidents happen. If this was a few years into production of Pacifique I could understand some consternation. It's batch #1 though (or 1B, I guess). Nobody got upset about the early batches of Leopold that were over-colored, probably because nobody knew what to expect, and those early Leopold bottles cost more than Pacifique. Unfortunately due to the high regard in which we hold Marc, with that high regard comes very high expectations, so when an accident happens in his case, it's seeming like a big deal to us, even though in reality it isn't that big of a deal. Those of us who bought the DUNY batch still got an absinthe that I bet most of you would reach for over many other brands, and at worst it's perfectly fine for any cocktail use.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 02:16 PM

I hope everyone gives Marc and Pacifique a second chance. I'm sure he'll make things right and produce a super product in the future.

As Porkio mentioned, it isn't easy starting up a distillery, and I know it certainly isn't cheap.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 02:34 PM

I'm sure he'll make things right and produce a super product in the future.


Round One-A is exactly that, but it seems Round One-B may not be.

Consistency is paramount, over the long haul, but I have faith he'll get there with Round Two.
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 05:47 AM

Wasn't batch one the one we donated herbs for ? I sent several pounds . I wouldn't have minded getting a sample of that .
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Posted 09 June 2009 - 07:27 AM

I sent some herbs for that as well.
Drinking for medicinal reasons.

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:22 PM

Wow, what a bummer. I'm sorry to see so many of you folks are having disappointing experiences. I've been through 7 bottles of the stuff (with some help), and it's been consistently fucking great. I bought it over a few months time frame, so I thought I was getting more than one batch, but maybe not.

I hope you all soon get a chance to taste the CO Pacifique as it should be.

Here's some other louche pics.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 03:33 AM

Wow, it looks like you even got un emile to louche in your other pics!

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 05:02 AM

Freakin' miraculous!

Did Jesus bless that batch while he was distilling L'Artisanale?
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 06:18 AM

"in reality it isn't that big of a deal. Those of us who bought the DUNY batch still got an absinthe that I bet most of you would reach for over many other brands, and at worst it's perfectly fine for any cocktail use."
Porkio


No , it's not.
It's a big deal to me when I buy 3 bottles of something that friends told me was good and it turns out to be swill .
It's a big deal for someone who knows what good absinthe is to make this , bottle it and send it on for me to drink .
Did G&C know what went into those bottles?
I would not drink this , period . I couldn't mix it and I have nothing else to reach for on the shelf that is worse .
Porky , you can have mine , p me with your addy and I'll send it on .
Absomphe , you want a bottle ? I'll send you a sealed bottle and Porky an open one , since he already knows exactly what he's getting . Although I'm starting to think that Porkies batch is different from mine , too .
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 06:22 AM

And it's a big deal that I gave the first bottle to Mr. Big for a gift.
That particular bottle cost me more than I am accustomed to paying , anyone.
It was his comment that prompted me to open mine and try it , boy , was my face red .
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:21 AM

<Did Jesus bless that batch while he was distilling L'Artisanale?>

Might be, butt other products from the period had had Perrenoud curse as ya remember, so I bet what HB is showin' is the newer, later's Emile's batch.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:57 AM

Absomphe , you want a bottle ?


Thanks, Kirk, but I have no problem taking your word for it.

After all, you're the master smith who barters his superlative creations for absinthe.

You wouldn't be giving the xit away if it were anywhere near up to snuff.

Edited by Absomphe, 10 June 2009 - 11:03 AM.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:28 AM

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:33 AM

No thanks, I've got my own.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:41 AM

I believe someone
'salready sending me
an East coast sample.
Prolly plenty.
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Posted 10 June 2009 - 11:39 AM

Here's some other louche pics.


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Posted 11 June 2009 - 03:34 AM

I sinked my bottle...

At least DUNY stopped selling that batch "Out of stock. We expect to have this item back on or around June 26th"

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:17 AM

Well , a bad bottle of absinthe is important but what is becoming more important is this;
when you shoot your friends , the enemy wins .
Gassy is a good guy with some beautiful equipment , and he is a friend .
I have no doubt he'll straighten things out .
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 06:47 AM

Although I'm starting to think that Porkies batch is different from mine , too .


Well, what I bought is definitely different from what I had at the DUNY tasting. I've had no problem using it for cocktails, but it's pretty flaccid on its own.

I think the lesson has been learned though (the lesson being to louche up a little bit of your product before bottling, even if it goes straight from filter to bottle). I tend to lean towards mercy. I thought you were generally inclined to do that too, though there's certainly nothing wrong with wanting amends when you laid out your money and word on something that ended up being defective.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 08:21 AM

It's always hard to criticize a friend , it's a dirty job .
If it was filtered , it shouldn't have been , you should never filter absinthe with anything smaller than window screen .
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 08:58 AM

Maybe you should send one to Gassy. So he can taste it.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:25 AM

It's always hard to criticize a friend , it's a dirty job .
If it was filtered , it shouldn't have been , you should never filter absinthe with anything smaller than window screen .
I'll send you a bottle , p me your confirmed addy, there are 2 up for grabs.


Thanks for the offer, I really do appreciate it, but I honestly don't make enough absinthe cocktails to make it worth your trouble.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:02 PM

I am glad to see that Kirk has softened his position.
Marc and Michael are indeed very good people. I have high regards for both.
I am also sure that they are very aware of what has happened. I have no doubt that the Pacifique will be up to standards in the future.
Let us put this misadventure behind us and wish Marc the best success and let him know that he has my full support.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:05 PM

I like it in Orange Juice!

I haven't yet had a bad batch of Marteau, maybe you should buy that next time.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:15 PM

Um, no.

And what Jesus said.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:17 PM

Is that avatar really necessary?
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:20 PM

Is that Absomphe really necessary?


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Posted 12 June 2009 - 01:21 PM

Um, no TGO, like Stillenacht '96 I'm more of a barely affordable luxury, but I'm worth it.


Dear Abby, your obviously rhetorical question makes me rather sad.

After all, I culled it from a plethora of choices, specifically with you in mind.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 08:56 PM

Thus proving everything.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:11 PM

"Let us put this misadventure behind us and wish Marc the best success and let him know that he has my full support."

Don't get met wrong.
There are 3 or 4 people I expect to do well in the absinthe biz, and Marc is one of them.

I'm just a bit disappointed by what I paid for.

I'm sure he can do sooooo much better.

I just want to be able to buy it, and stock it in my "rotation".

Yeah my bottles of Pacifique suck, and yeah they're bland and on par with lucid, but I'll hold back my ire for another batch; because I KNOW what he's capable of.

There's really no point in beating the dead horse... at least until the dead horse is risen... or better... or worse.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 05:20 AM

I'll buy another bottle in 6 months , if it's as bad as these , I'll kick his ass from here to Pontalier.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:42 AM

My guess is that you will not be disappointed by it again. I'm still loving the Voyager but running low. In an effort to make it last, I bought an every-day gin called "Bluecoat." Anyone else tried it? I wish the Voyager was on the shelf at the local ABC.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 09:52 AM

I like the Blue coat a lot .
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 12:11 PM

Anyone try "Round Two" yet?
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 04:52 PM

I thought the snafu was round two.
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 05:05 PM

Wow. I just ended up with the weak louching stuff from here in Seattle.

I tried louching with a cold carafe poured at 3:1 as usual, it barely louched (about as weak as LTV!), lighter/flatter taste, short finish and no body to speak of. Much different than the prior bottles I've had.

Two bottles, pretty much my whole absinthe budget for awhile. I had such a good experience with round 1A, I didn't think I needed the wait and see approach. Now I see why you guys are bummed.

After I got done being upset, I decided to try an ice cold slow fountain drip. After around 7-10 minutes, I got a decent/ok louche that reminded me of Roquette 1797 or L'Italienne 1. The taste, body and finish were much improved, pretty close to the 1A. This makes me feel a little better at least.

It would be nice if there was a batch number on the bottle. It would have saved me from buying sub-par stuff. I feel sorry for people who pay $13 for a glass of this at a bar (where the slow drip probably can't/wont happen) and don't know absinthe well enough to know what's going on.

Edited by HeeB-GeeB, 14 June 2009 - 08:17 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2009 - 06:33 PM

I was thinking the same thing about the batch number , makes it hard to figure out what you're getting .
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Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:41 PM

I'm of the wait-and-see school now.
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There's just too much time to kill between all my mistakes.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:33 AM

I thought the snafu was round two.


Okay, has anyone tried "Round Three" yet?

Maybe Marc could put a "distilled on" date on the back of the bottle...
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 10:54 AM

Not in the US, he can't. That's why the batch number idea was being tossed around. Leopold does that.
It won't matter soon, anyway. He'll get it dialed in and then they'll all be perfect.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:34 AM

Batch numbers are a great idea . You can't dial in something that depends on a variety of variables . The best you can do is develop a reliable protocol for the distillation at hand . You will then have a product that will be related to the growing and harvest conditions of the particular herbs that were included . The only way to ameliorate that would be to use time and a solera system to blend out any differences .
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:59 PM

ARP has been spending an inordinate amount of time in this thread today.
There's just too much time to kill between all my mistakes.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:33 PM

That's 'cause we tell it like it is.

ARP seeks the truth.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

ARP seeks the truth.


Anal Rape Prowler???
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 05:49 PM

In all those hard to get to places!
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 06:18 PM

To all the hard to get places .
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:13 AM

I thought the snafu was round two.


Okay, has anyone tried "Round Three" yet?


Anyone???
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:57 AM

It's most likely not even made yet.
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 17 June 2009 - 03:14 AM

Should be... DUNY says "Out of stock. We expect to have this item back on or around June 26th"
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 07:47 AM

I sinked my bottle...


You sank an absinthe that you rated 4 out of 5 stars?

Man, you must be throwin' Molotov cocktails at most Bills games.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:24 AM

Huh...My bottles of round 2 (or whatever round I got) aren't bad enough for me to sink, it just takes real cold water and forever to louche. Definitely a disappointment after round 1, but it's not bad when slow dripped, and it acts as a good buffer between me and my dwindling bottles of Walton Waters and Meadow of Love.

Edited by HeeB-GeeB, 19 June 2009 - 09:50 AM.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:29 AM

True.
It's not horrible, just really far below where it should/could be.

Instead of kicking ass, it just sits on the sidelines sharing a seat with Lucid.

I wouldn't have sinked a bottle.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:37 AM

Hell , I gave mine away to friends .
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 10:11 AM

Kirk's always got the best giveaways.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:40 AM

my dwindling bottles of Walton Waters and Meadow of Love.


A sad state of affairs, that is.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:49 PM

Huh...My bottles of round 2 (or whatever round I got) aren't bad enough for me to sink, it just takes real cold water and forever to louche.


That's surprising if the bottle came from Seattle. I thought the inferior batch was isolated to a palette delivered to NYC only.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:21 PM

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, so I went ahead and picked up 2 bottles at once. Oh well. It was an unpleasant surprise at first, but I'm over it. Maybe by the time my absinthe budget regenerates, the next batches will be and out and Marc will have everything dialed in.

It was really great getting to talk to Marc and Mike, and checking out the distillery. Many of you have known Marc and his works a lot longer than I, but I feel like I've seen and tasted enough to believe he'll keep striving for perfection.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:36 PM

I sinked my bottle...


You sank an absinthe that you rated 4 out of 5 stars?


No wonder the call you "Fucking Tardo for Life"

I say what I really feel in this forum but on DUNY where a fellow Lounger is trying to make some money I gave it a more favorable review... It was an ok absinthe I guess, it was just such a huge letdown that I sinked it. I am really looking forward to Marc's next batch becuse I know for a fact he can do so much better...
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:40 PM

I really want Marc to do well and come out with some different ones too.

Berger Clone anyone?
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:49 PM

"...I know for a fact he can do so much better."


Especially since he already has.


Somehow, I have a strong feeling that the next round will even exceed his first.

If not, I want to see pics of Kirk administering that transatlantic asskicking.

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Posted 19 June 2009 - 03:52 PM

Berger Clone anyone?


I hear that one has to be distilled sans pantaloons.
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Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:03 PM

Kirk's always got the best giveaways.

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Posted 20 June 2009 - 09:03 AM

I agree as well! Kirk is top shelf!!!
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Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:09 PM

"...I know for a fact he can do so much better."


Especially since he already has.


Somehow, I have a strong feeling that the next round will even exceed his first.

If not, I want to see pics of Kirk administering that transatlantic asskicking.


I doubt he'll be grumpy for a while.

I just received a bottle from a newer batch, and it's really excellent. Think Verte de Suisse (with its good green anise and flowery hyssop finish) but better balanced than some of the VS bottles and with better herbs and more fragrant. Excellent mouthfeel, too.

Good. Very good. A very big thank you to the maker.

Oh, and it louches just by looking at it sternly (at 1:1).

Edited by sixela, 09 July 2009 - 11:10 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:14 PM

It's great you folks are now tasting it as it should be.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:48 AM

Got drunk on Pacifique last night and didn't feel tricked. I enjoyed every last drop.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:32 AM

I also received a bottle of the "Real Deal". I knocked off a few quick glasses and must concur. It louches quick and thick, and the flavor is supurb. I didn't spend a lot of time thinking about it, but I did enjoy it.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 09:50 AM

I just got back from Vermont and my bottle was there waiting for me! I can't wait to try it!!!

In a world of way to many SonOpies, Marc has proven that not only does he make top shelf booze but he is top shelf as well! Cheers!!!
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:03 AM

It's great that all but one of you folks are now tasting it as it should be.

Fixed.

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:56 AM

Between this and your rantings over at FV, you're getting really tedious. Send him a PM and ask him what you want to ask him or STFU.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 11:21 AM

Now that seems right I hope
someone from the right coast
will finally send me a viable sample.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 03:17 PM

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 04:46 PM

"I just got back from Vermont.."

Phew, I escaped a get together with Smutty.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 07:25 PM

The real Smuttty died a long tome ago. There's no telling what this one is like in person.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:32 PM

"I just got back from Vermont.."

Phew, I escaped a get together with Smutty.


Awwww, and we had such good fun with your towel at Louchie's... I will always rememember the nite of sharing the pull out couch with you....

You said you liked the "thick, creamy mouth-feel"

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Posted 10 July 2009 - 11:01 PM

That was then, this is now.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:57 AM

Yeah, back when it was the fashion to pretend you are gay.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:04 AM

So Bruno is out of fashion? Thank God!

Well I have to admit that Absinthe Pacifique is definately a great absinthe! Great louche, very tasty herbs and above all after 6 glasses I felt the fairies buzzing!!!

Now we gotta get it in my local store...

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Posted 31 July 2009 - 10:47 PM

Tonight I cracked the bottle that came last week. Marc has really hit his stride. I couldn't agree more with Smuttty, this needs to be of the shelf at my local booze pusher.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:34 AM

I talked to the GM of our largest liquor store chains and he is very interested in good absinthe... What is the next step?
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:53 AM

Buying a copper alembic...
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:57 AM

>I talked to the GM of our largest liquor store chains and he is very interested in good absinthe... What is the next step?

depending on the state, have him contact Marc or Tempus Fugit Spirits....
Too cloying and obvious. ™

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:24 AM

Western New York...

The only down side to having such a great absinthe at my local retailer would be the inevitable unemployment.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 01:24 PM

It's Western New York.

Who'd notice?
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:52 PM

I tasted the first and I'm a little apprehensive about trying it again.
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Posted 01 August 2009 - 08:07 PM

Oh absomphe... Fucking Tardo for Life
I need my Demons to combat my Ghosts so that I can forget the Skeletons...

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#190 Absomphe

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:02 AM

Says Pot, still festering in the Armpit of the East.
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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:39 AM

Pol Pot?

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 08:55 AM

Here's some advise for u absomphe...

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 01:38 PM

"Pol Pot"?

'Zactly!


"Arguing".


Agreed, although you misspelled 'posting'.

It's all a ride on the short bus, butt as Jerry Garcia recommended, you might as well enjoy it, anyway.

Edited by Absomphe, 02 August 2009 - 01:39 PM.

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 05:54 PM

Stop being a Jerry's Kid Absomphe.
They're to keep out witches!

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 06:19 PM

HA!
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 03:47 PM

G&C and I finished bottling a batch of Pacifique. Very, very happy with the results. Minimum age (going into the Solera) is 3 months. Next week we distill a batch of Voyager.
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#197 Kirk

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 06:57 PM

Cool, what's the best way to order a bottle of this batch?
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 07:32 AM

Is it the same exact recipe, or something different?
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