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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:15 AM

It means a lot.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:16 AM

I think there are going to be some serious lines drawn in the sand.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:19 AM

To my way of thinking, inconsequential as it may be, when you start covering things up, you are admitting that you fucked up.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:21 AM

I really hate where this is going. Any way I take this, I'm going to lose friends.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:23 AM

Then again, those of you that put money over integrity, have a nice life.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:27 AM

I could care less about making a buck off of absinthe, though many are making their panties wet at the thought. I don't give a fuck if my name has anything to do with this scene either. There are enough Fathers of modern absinthe that I'd rather be seen in bar with Abby, rather than the mother.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:29 AM

If I'd ever had a clue as to how this would all play out, I'd have taken up collecting vintage screw-drivers instead.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:33 AM

Vintage hand planes are cool too. Aside from me n' Kirk and Gimpy, I doubt there are three of you who know what I'm talking about.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:57 AM

Then again, those of you that put money over integrity, have a nice life.

INDEED!™

I could care less about making a buck off of absinthe, though many are making their panties wet at the thought.

Kinda sad, huh?

I don't give a fuck if my name has anything to do with this scene either. There are enough Fathers of modern absinthe that I'd rather be see in bar with Abby, rather than the mother.

I'll second that emotion.

Vintage hand planes are cool too. Aside from me n' Kirk and Gimpy, I doubt there are three of you who know what I'm talking about.

I'm pretty sure I know a hand plane from a hydro plane.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:18 AM

I may be plain,
but I know a
plane.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:19 AM

Censorship of anything
except personal info
revealed about someone
who'd rather have it
private is flat out
fucked the fuck up.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:20 AM

What point can
there be except
to hide skeeviness?
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:21 AM

Sad times a
comin'.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:31 AM

Posting private information should be never be done without consent in the first place. If it happens it is not censorship, it is just prudent clean up.

beyond that I don't believe in anyone editing/deleting(, or whaterver) other persons posts.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:41 AM

Sometimes we type things in haste, anger, or drunkeness only to regret it later. That's why members have the ability to edit their own posts... and not just for an hour or two after posting.

I don't delete posts other than my own. I won't censor shit. For those that have been here since the lounge didn't have a "D", you remember how we got started... We took this place from someone that had ulterior motives, from someone that was a liar, we took over because we cared to tell the truth; nothing's changed. We call it as we see it.

But don't air others personal information in public. It'll piss me off.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:46 AM

It appears to be just fine for Peter Shaft to post private information in a public forum...he's above everyone else...
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 12:44 PM

That's low.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 02:50 PM

Butt so true.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:03 PM

Never said
otherwise, amigo.

I meant it's low
to be above.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:21 PM

I see that now.

I haven't eaten anyone yet today so I'm a little slower than normal


I need a beer.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:40 PM

I'm 4 ahead
of ya.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:42 PM

and 3 hours.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:46 PM

I'm with the mayor.
It's 96 here and I took a 6 mile bike ride
so them beers a rehydratin' me
grate.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:00 PM

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Too cloying and obvious. ™

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:04 PM

Ya know, I just never figgered that Peter Shaft would stoop to being another lame moronic troll, 'specially being the big "Absinthe expert" and all...
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:08 PM

isn't it fun, though?
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:09 PM

:Mayor:
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:12 PM

you killed bunny!

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:12 PM

Might be fun if you'd actually have anything intelligent to say.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 04:15 PM

i bet it would be fun to meet in person - well, after i got over the ball-kicking...
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:52 PM

I thought of posting that skinned rabbit after I found it on google too.
Just didn't seem right though.
Oh well, I'm a fool fer thinking.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 06:02 PM

Batemaster translation ~

i bet it would be fun to meat in person - well, after i got over the ball-licking...


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Posted 26 June 2007 - 06:52 PM

Shaft - you're too much of a pussy to even confront me on the internet.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:43 PM

Mebbe we could set this up on PPV?
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 11:54 PM

In response to Peter’s new signature:

signature to be changed at any time by lame-ass Moderator to witty self-insult...
be sure to check my profile info for Moderator-changed funnies!


This is the same bullshit behavior I've smacked down in the past. If you have a problem with a member or business entity, fine, post it. It won’t get fucked with or Hiramed™. Butt changing profiles and signatures is just as wrong as what goes on at WS. I would think it is time to move past all the innuendo and air whatever grievances people may have with real statements. I’m way to fucking busy to baby-sit this kind of juvenile shite.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:46 AM

'zactly.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:57 AM

I'm going to lose friends.

Friends are overrated.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 02:09 AM

Friend in need is a friend, indeed. Rarely happens.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 02:56 AM

>Shaft - you're too much of a pussy to even confront me on the internet.

yeah rupert, you're right, you're just too 'all that' for me...
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:46 AM


I'm going to lose friends.

Friends are overrated.

True.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:55 AM

So what happened? Peter is Satan (we already knew that), but why? We're airing out all the shit right here, and nobody is being censored, so let's hear about it from the mouth of those who care about whatever this big deal is rather than this sly innuendo which amounts to a whole lot of smoke but thus far no substance. Who did what to whom?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:27 AM

...™
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:28 AM

Excellent question!

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:48 AM

>Shaft - you're too much of a pussy to even confront me on the internet.

yeah rupert, you're right, you're just too 'all that' for me...


WOW! I must be famous or somthing...mebbe I'll be writing books with Butty and Ted soon, go on TV xows, etc. etc....
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:54 AM

...™


Peter trademarked you?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:59 AM

Goddam it!

... is mine, always
has been.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:03 PM

That Peter bastard has really gone too far this time.

Soon cats and dogs will be living together.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:20 PM

So what happened?


I think I've been pretty transparent about how I feel and what happened.
If anyone's confused, ask me a direct question.
A simple comment on the internet cost me real world consequences.
As for the rest of it, it all seems obvious, and predicktable.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:21 PM

Don't forget sad.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:42 PM

...™

Quite some fuss for yet another ...™ ...

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:46 PM

A simple comment on the internet cost me real world consequences.
As for the rest of it, it all seems obvious, and predicktable.


Oh, this is about that dust up? Yes, that was unfortunate for all involved.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:53 PM

I'm sure there will be continued demand for your work though, it will just have to be sold through a different avenue.

As for the topic of censorship, I don't think anything should be censored, ever, with the obvious exception of damning personal information or revealing of private confidences in public. As Drinkslinger pointed out, post editing allows for self-censorship, because sometimes we do say things we would prefer to take back. If someone doesn't want what they said to be out there, then they can edit it. I'm assuming this topic is about the burying of certain threads in another forum?

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:54 PM

Well, I don't know, I'm just saying what I feel happened to me, my world revolves around me, there could be something else going on but I don't know much about that.
To be fair, it had built up over time, Peter and I had some clashes, I was starting to think he was a wanker, a passionate one, but still.
I got the idea I should toe the corporate line and if I crossed it, even jokingly (or drunkenly) I'd get spanked. That could be my perception, from his side, the line crossing probably looked like a spanking, and I started it.
I hate the whole thing because it was all negative, I looked negative, it was hard to joke about it.
I'm all over it.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:57 PM

A lot of the time, when something gets removed, it's when things are getting passionate,
it's a shame to lose that kind of stuff.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:59 PM

Very good point.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:03 PM

...

Edited by Oxygenee, 29 June 2007 - 08:10 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:12 PM


...™

Quite some fuss for yet another ...™ ...

I thought you said it well enough and decided I had nothing to add.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:18 PM

I could post a picture of a bunny instead.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:21 PM

Whoever only went so far as to make that bunny cry should be shot.
That rabbit needs to be taken out behind the barn and put down.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:42 PM

I was speaking rhetorically.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:44 PM

Anyone w/1st hand
knowledge gonna
answer Oxy?
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 01:46 PM

But I'll light a candle for the dead distillers.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:13 PM

...

Edited by Oxygenee, 29 June 2007 - 08:04 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:54 PM

...

Edited by Peter Nathan-Brew, 28 June 2007 - 01:52 AM.


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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:08 PM

Thanks, it is good to get a first hand account.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:56 PM

Who the fuck are you? Why this "Peter Nathan-Brew" pseudo? Why are you hiding?

Note: I'm not taking part in that "censorship" discussion, I was not involved and don't want to, I'm just asking "who the fuck are you?"

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:27 AM

He is the bunny that was made cry. And I do not follow his announcement, it only shows how the market, the people are divided and it is very sad when absinthe's future is at stake.
"therefore the injury that is to be done to a man ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand in fear of revenge"

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:45 AM

What is really sad is that "absintheurs" community is rather small already. It was sort of divided in 2 parts already: FV/Lounge and WS.
Now it's going to be divided in 3 parts: FV, Lounge and WS.
Fuck that!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:54 AM

I hope that isn't the case. FV hasn't banned or restricted access to all of its original members, so I don't see it going the H5 route. There are too many people with Balz™ over ther for that to happen.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:56 AM

Who the fuck are you? Why this "Peter Nathan-Brew" pseudo?

By not recognizing the boy in the avatar, you have made Bunny cry.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:50 AM

What is really sad is that "absintheurs" community is rather small already. It was sort of divided in 2 parts already: FV/Lounge and WS.
Now it's going to be divided in 3 parts: FV, Lounge and WS.
Fuck that!


Hence, maybe those who do have no holds barred row (war?) should reach a consensus and all three forums should unite as one: Louched Verte Society?

United we stand, divided we fall.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 04:06 AM

Who the fuck are you? Why this "Peter Nathan-Brew" pseudo?

Funny. The sock puppet not recognising an internet sock puppet.

As for "censorsip" on the <self-censored> forum, I didn't get the impression anything was removed (or worse edited) - the threads discussing new membership applications are usually hidden away in an unseen forum once the membership is approved, and the forum owner has even offered to restore them to the original (visible) location if the members of the forum preferred it.

Note that's only my impression, and imperfect it is (given I haven't seen the threads).

There has been some edition of posts at feeverte, but (as should alwys happen) the reasons for editing (not changing) part of a post have always been inserted (in situ and in red).

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:05 AM

PN-B looks
like a little
gay caballero.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:03 AM

...

Edited by Oxygenee, 29 June 2007 - 07:20 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:04 AM

Duplicate post, sorry.

Edited by Oxygenee, 28 June 2007 - 06:18 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:10 AM

...

Edited by Oxygenee, 28 June 2007 - 06:32 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:14 AM

What forum
would that
be?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:14 AM

I wish I knew
what the fuck
was going on.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:15 AM

I'd appreciate it
if someone could
post a synopsis.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:33 AM

Synopsis: Emotions override common sense endagering others. I good thing is lost . . .
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:37 AM

...and spelling goes
in the xitter.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:46 AM

Butt he's right.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:52 AM

Water under the bridge, it's over, nothing to see here.
People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:59 AM

So, just who it Peter Nathan-Brew?

That is what I would like to know.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:03 AM

Maybe I raised hell by asking one simple question in the wrong place. That would be something.

Edited by Helfrich, 28 June 2007 - 07:04 AM.


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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:03 AM

Is it a certain admin?
Drinking for medicinal reasons.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:14 AM

Man the paranoia's getting thick in here.
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:16 AM

All things considered, it should be.
Drinking for medicinal reasons.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:22 AM

I'd appreciate it
if someone could
post a synopsis.


It was posted by some cowardly shitbag puppet, but then edited, as if that somehow made it better.

I'm not usually one to use emoticons, but whoever it is has earned this:
:FuckoffSpaz:

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:27 AM

Maybe I raised hell by asking one simple question in the wrong place. That would be something.


I had no idea that I already knew the answer to the question, as I thought the problem in question had already been resolved. Otherwise I would have never made the post requesting that people stop the vague innuendo and literally say what the problem was. At the end of the day, however, it's the fault of the person who made the post that specifically and incriminatingly identifying individuals by name, not the fault of those who were asking for honesty and directness.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:31 AM

I don't believe the issue to be that of "censorship". I believe that this little event was meant as a display.

As for "traitor", it's all relative.
Was deepthroat a traitor?
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:38 AM

Man the paranoia's getting thick in here.

So is the boredom.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:42 AM

So nothing has changed, in other words?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:45 AM

I'm not drunk
(yet).
for some people, there's money in absinthe. And for some, there's only absinthe in absinthe.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:46 AM

The more shit changes, the more it's still shit. -- LL

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:19 AM

That's gotta be one of the best quotes of all time.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:43 AM

I'm not drunk
(yet).



I am.


In fact, I am one Hyssop Happy™ Mo'Fo.
Drinking for medicinal reasons.

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but I'm not the only one.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:54 AM

Too.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:30 AM

Is it a certain admin?

Um, no. :Whoopin:
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:03 AM

Thank you for that, glad to hear it.



Than who ? :Whoopin:
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:06 AM

WHO???

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:21 AM

Posted Image

Who?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:26 AM

Listen to Uncle Dinky, y'all.
It was just a display and it was recanted.
The poster was entitled to recant.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:27 AM

Why does the title "Uncle Dinky" make me sound like a greasy old pedophile?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:38 AM

As in RL one can never undo or take back what is said. The damage is done.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:40 AM

...

Edited by Oxygenee, 29 June 2007 - 07:17 AM.

People who live in the Tatra Mountains have a tendency to take a small sip from a glass, keep it in a mouth, then swallow and drink the rest.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:46 AM

If I shot someone and the bullet went straight through them into a sand pile and I recovered the bullet and took it back would the damage not be done?

Would you believe me if I said it was all in fun?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:47 AM

And if I shot you from behind, would I be any less a coward?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:08 PM

It was a fucked up attempt.
A real pity.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:17 PM

Fine, Oxy.
I didn't see the thing.
I don't live here.
I just work here.
If it were truly as invasive as you suggest
(containing personal information),
it would have unambiguously fallen within the bounds
of content that is subject to removal.
Immediately.

You seem to want to encourage people to keep obsessing over it.
Have fun.
Feel free to contact me if they post your personal business.
'Cause that's not OK for anyone to do ever.
What else is in the teaches of Peaches?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:23 PM

That being said, the post was not Hiramed™.
It was removed by the user,
as Dinky previously said.
Please to desist the paranoia.
I refer you to Oxy Re: the contents.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:23 PM


Listen to Uncle Dinky, y'all.
It was just a display and it was recanted.
The poster was entitled to recant.


No, it wasn't just a fucking "display". It was a cold-blooded attempt (by someone who'd made a committment to total confidentiality), in the most explicit, unambiguous and detailed terms, to out me and Peter (both of whose real names and addresses are easily available online), and it succeeded both in doing just that (I had three phone calls and 6 emails from people who saw it while it was up), and in shutting down something valuable that had been painstakingly built up over several years.

Recanting several hours later after the damage had been done made precisely no difference at all.


Being one of those effected by this post I agree with Oxy. The admins know who were effected, and should make contact with the offender's name to those effected, so we may protect ourselves in the future by avoiding this person and not sharing any further confidences.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:29 PM

:Whoopin:

Edited by Le Gimp, 28 June 2007 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:13 PM

So is the boredom.

A bunch of people bleating that something terrible is going on -- up to making bunny cry -- is extremely exciting.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:34 PM

Being one of those effected by this post I agree with Oxy. The admins know who were effected, and should make contact with the offender's name to those effected...

So, if I understand this, two wrongs don't make a right, but three do. I don't think so, pal. I will give you that four lefts make a right though.

Knowing the "offender", I'm sure he'll privately contact those "effected".
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:47 PM

I have no 1st hand
knowledge about the
initial dust.

I've been told things.
The people that have
told me things, they
can say these things
publicly. I won't pass
on 2nd hand info here.
At a party? Sure.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:49 PM

Man, I saw what happened and I still don't know what happened.
Trust me, you're not missing anything.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:49 PM

As far as who
the puppet was/is
and what was posted?
I have no idea. I only
saw the "...".

Giving out personal info
about someone is verboten.
Simple.
Some people care about
their private lives. Their
choice. My buddy Head
Prosthesis wouldn't let
his picture be posted. I
told him I thought that
dumb, but xit, it was
his choice.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:51 PM

I've given my RL
handle, phone #s,
+ address out here
w/no ill effects except
some well intentioned
drunk dials.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:51 PM

I'm far from
norm.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:52 PM

I'm a drama
queen attention
whore.

But, if I'd caught
the offending post
in full bloom, I'dve
zapped the fucker.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:53 PM

People feel safe and
free to say any old
fuckin' thing here
for a reason.

There's a line drawn.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:53 PM

Lots of 'em, actually.

But, anyway, our way
of runnin' this mess has
worked.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:54 PM

Until this a.m.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:56 PM


So is the boredom.

A bunch of people bleating that something terrible is going on -- up to making bunny cry -- is extremely exciting.


If still even from the 3rd leg there is no explanation what has really happened, why and why (2) it has made bunny cry. If exposing someone else's personal information is out of question here, there, anywhere. Everyone has privacy.
"therefore the injury that is to be done to a man ought to be of such a kind that one does not stand in fear of revenge"

"Men’s hatreds generally spring from fear or envy"


N. Machiavelli

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:57 PM

True.
Could you be
a lot more
private, please?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:57 PM

If it were truly as invasive as you suggest
(containing personal information),

It would've been fine if it hadn't contained names but it identified a member of a forum, the forum admin, and discussed exactly what was being discussed on the forum.

And it was posted under a puppet with a fucked-up name (it isn't hard to guess which three people are being branded as the Enemy) ensuring the persons named had no way to have it removed promptly by contacting the author.

Who on earth approved the puppet, by the way?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:19 PM

Look at the join date, not relevant.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:24 PM

We approve every-
fuckin'-one here, 6.

Always have, even
when I had godlike
Admin powers and
the same hate of
puppets that still
flips up my hairy
ass hairs (that
Nyph admires so
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:25 PM

We decide xit
mostly in public
here.

Very few things go
on cloaked in the
thin veil of giving
enough of a xit
to thinly veil it.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:27 PM

I used to go in
and open the
gate on 5-6
pent up Members
To Be w/out even
looking @ the info
when I was an Admin.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:27 PM

Let 'em swim.
Let 'em drown.

Fuck 'em all.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:27 PM

So I assume an admin can change his joining date, can't he?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:28 PM

You can delay entry.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:28 PM

Dunno, I'm not the greate H, just H.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:29 PM

Look at the join date, not relevant.

I see - getting a puppet by that name and then using it to throw shit at the wall a year later. How admirable.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:29 PM

We've always, as
far as I know, just
let fucks in.

Why not?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:29 PM

Still he likes stinky pont-l'évêque.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:30 PM

So I assume an admin can change his joining date, can't he?

Yeah, he can, given he's got SQL access to the database. Not the style of this house, though.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:30 PM

That would take more thought than went into the postings. One one hand I really want to know who the culprit is, on the other, I don't because they are probably someone I like.


Fuck.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:31 PM

6 is right.

Too much work.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:32 PM

You know the
Stooges well
enough to
know that's always
been too much work.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:32 PM

We like the bar
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the decorating.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:32 PM

Yeah but the worst part is I don't know who to mistrust.












Damn you type fast!
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:32 PM

And definitely
not makin' a guest
list.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:33 PM

We'd rather bounce
the fuckheads and
buy rounds for the
cool xits.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:33 PM


Look at the join date, not relevant.

I see - getting a puppet by that name and then using it to throw shit at the wall a year later. How admirable.

What exactly do you want here?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:34 PM

Prole,
Yes.

And do the Marvin Gaye
test-
1/2 of what you see and
none of what you here.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:34 PM

It's easy to tell you ain't from around here (the South that is).










Type like a New Yawkah!
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:35 PM

He types really fast.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:35 PM

I'm hearin' too
much through the
grape vine these
days.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:45 PM

He types fast because his posts are 10 words or less most times.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:46 PM

One one hand I really want to know who the culprit is, on the other, I don't because they are probably someone I like.
Fuck.


My sentiments as well. But would you still like them after you knew who it was?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:47 PM

10 words or -
is the audience.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:47 PM

You'd all get mad
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:48 PM

Again.

If you looked 'em
in the eye, you'd
better be able to
trust 'em.

They fuck ya then?

Hardcore fuckup, that.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 02:55 PM

'xactly.
They're to keep out witches!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:04 PM

Fuck you
squirrel.

Where's the
Pussy?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:04 PM

I don't
trust ya.

My dog,
on the other
hand/paw,
loves ya.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:10 PM

Smart Dog.
They're to keep out witches!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:11 PM

and the pussy's back.
They're to keep out witches!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:26 PM

Yep.

And good.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:48 PM

I have no idea who is still friends with
each other at this point.

I guess I better just put everyone
on my shit list till I get it figgered out.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:56 PM

God damn puppets.
I'd like to know who it was.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:58 PM

But would you still like them after you knew who it was?



Maybe but I'd still be pissed.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:58 PM

God damn it, it wasn't me, I've never had a puppet, always hated puppets, and I don't feed them.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 04:01 PM

I know who it wasn't but not who it wuz,


though I've got suspicions . . .
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:48 PM

I have no idea who is still friends with
each other at this point.

I guess I better just put everyone
on my shit list till I get it figgered out.


You're still my "friend" I hope...
The more Black Lickerish Tasting Crap changes, the more Black Lickerish Tasting Crap tastes like Black Lickerish.

Where the fuck is ATown?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 05:55 PM

Excellent, that's one person down.

Who's next off the shit list?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:00 PM

I hate to inform you, butt I believe I'm the only one who actually cares...
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Where the fuck is ATown?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:02 PM

I like Head.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:09 PM

There's two of us then.
The more Black Lickerish Tasting Crap changes, the more Black Lickerish Tasting Crap tastes like Black Lickerish.

Where the fuck is ATown?

#173 Headouard P.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:09 PM

Jack, I've heard that about you.
And I'll give you the benefit of doubt.
But I guess Kirk just made it clear.
Who doesn't love Head?

Ok, no more shit list.
But I still have to sort out the wrestling script.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:13 PM

Oh, you meant that kind of "Head"...
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:29 PM


Being one of those effected by this post I agree with Oxy. The admins know who were effected, and should make contact with the offender's name to those effected...

So, if I understand this, two wrongs don't make a right, but three do. I don't think so, pal. I will give you that four lefts make a right though.

Knowing the "offender", I'm sure he'll privately contact those "effected".


That's bullshit.
Say something clever and memorable, or say something outrageous. And unfortunately, it's a lot easier to be outrageous than clever and memorable

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:50 PM

Head,
Don't put me in the
wresting script as the
"Despondent Hoser".
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:51 PM

I read the term
"merman" yesterday.

Didn't know I didn't
make it up.
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#178 Kirk

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:51 PM

four lefts make a right though.


I hate to point this out, at this time but, that would make a circle or a return, but 3 lefts make a right so I get where you're going with that.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:54 PM

That's so square.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:54 PM

In a roundabout
way.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 06:54 PM

Curse recursion.

Attached Files


What else is in the teaches of Peaches?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:00 PM

I haven't spoken to anyone here more than one time in a year.
Except Eric, I've spoken to him maybe 3 times in the last year.
I talked to Loogie once, because he got his wedding rings from me.
Fact is, none of us talk very much at all, where's the conspiracy?
It's all out here on the net, it's all in yer bony heads.
It's all in whatever it was you read into whatever it was that was read .
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:02 PM

Um, we were
there in Aug.
of last year.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:04 PM

Photoshop failure!

Hee, hee!

I'm Smuttty.
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#185 Kirk

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:04 PM

But we only talked once (for three days)
And we never mentioned any of this or that.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:05 PM

Musta made a big impression...
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:06 PM

But not that big!
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:07 PM

No xit!
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#189 Kirk

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:08 PM

Besides, I meant to say once or twice, my point was, it's not like we're on the phone to each other or P'Ming all the time, it just dosen't happen like that.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:10 PM

I love you Kirk, in a non biblical way.
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:14 PM

The thing is, we don't need to talk, that's why we're here, supposedly there is something we get about each other or from each other, and we talk here mostly, in public.
Where's the damn conspiracy?
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:14 PM

I have friends I haven't spoken to in years.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:20 PM

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
Waiting for someone or something to show you the way

Tired of lying in the sunshine, staying home to watch the rain
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today
And then one day you find, ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun

And you run and you run to catch up with the sun,
but it's sinking
And racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death

Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to nought,
or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone the song is over,
Thought I'd something more to say

Home, home again
I like to be here when I can
When I come home cold and tired
It's good to warm my bones beside the fire
Far away across the fields
The tolling of an iron bell
Calls the faithful to their knees
To hear the softly spoken magic spells

- Pink Floyd
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:07 PM

I have friends I haven't spoken to in years.


I've lost friends I haven't spoken to in years.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:13 PM

I've lost friends I've spoken to for years.
They're to keep out witches!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:22 PM



Being one of those effected by this post I agree with Oxy. The admins know who were effected, and should make contact with the offender's name to those effected...

So, if I understand this, two wrongs don't make a right, but three do. I don't think so, pal. I will give you that four lefts make a right though.

Knowing the "offender", I'm sure he'll privately contact those "effected".


That's bullshit.


What I find peculiar is that the person responsible felt that it was so exceedingly important that they just had to post that info, but apparently they do not feel it's important enough to be worth fessing up to? They're allowed to have all the anonymity they wish, while those most affected by the action are not allowed any kind of recourse for the wrongs inflicted, and instead have no choice but to sit there and guess as to who it may have been, which just furthers encouarges paranoid thinking... Yeah, that makes everything better.

Wow, I'm going to go get me a puppet, I'll be able to get awaywith fucking anything.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:37 PM

Liver mentioned that being able to say anything you wanted at the lounge has made it work so well here.

It still does.

That's probably why he chose this place to make his post. That, and the fact that most of the members don't buy into hype, and believe in the truth not just what's popular thinking.

I'm sickened by what I've been reading and seeing. Not just in private messages, but in public discourse.

The amazing thing, is that the people I really need to count on, are the people that mirror my thinking...

Thanks for being here and being true.
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:57 PM

"I'm sickened by what I've been reading and seeing. Not just in private messages, but in public discourse."


That just makes me want to poke you in the chest really hard.
And this time I have the frames to take a phonebook in the face.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:00 PM

I've packed on another 30lbs since then.
You'd best have on superman frames!

No freaking rhinestones man!
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Posted 28 June 2007 - 09:04 PM

I'll take your 30 lbs. and raise you
these 50's era shop teacher specs.

BRING IT ON!