First off, I am NOT trying to start any flame wars or denigrate anyone's efforts, since we have both home and commercial distillers on the boards. I respect the efforts of both groups.

That said, there are differences between the two, in both production and delivery, due to the legal issues.

What are your thoughts on how things will play out of the next couple/few years?

Please, let's not get into the "mine is better than yours" debate. That is for another thread.

Thanks!

You left out one option. Improved CO offerings will increase public appreciation of absinthe leading to increased demand for HG.

I'll drink too much.

TheGreenOne,

Yeah, could be a possibility. But I can't think of everything.

As knowledge and consumption of fine absinthe increases
more growers will grow the quality of herbs needed.
As more growers emerge
the fine herbs may become more affordable
for the commercial distillers.

Or not.

Everything changes sooner or later.

Most things change sooner or later. But, sooner OR later?

Entropy is forever.

so is ugly.

It was still a good question.

Or a good still question...

I don't expect to see much change in the near term. That is up to 5 years. In 5 to 10 years I expect to see it legalized again. I expect a challenge to be made that T-Bonz is similar to THC. This will be followed by a rebuttal that it does not effect the same receptor, etc. EU approval will be the big stick to allow it back in.

But. It will take a champion in Congress to get the FDA overruled. There-in lies the problem that I see. It is not an act of congress that makes it illegal. It is a FDA statute that is not likely to change unless congress pushes them.

who the fuck are you and what have you done with our spuck?!?!??!

Sorry. I was tea totteling (spell check couldn't figure it out either) while out of town. I only had one beer all weekend (Stoned IPA).

I'll be back to normal once I get my alcohol level back on level.

intelligent posts like your last one leave me dry.


jeebus.

even kirk was making a bit of sense earlier.

this place is going to shite.

There may be a potential non-Congressional route to overturning the FDA ban. There is a little known law called the Data Quality Act that sets standards for the quality of most federally-disseminated information. The law and allows the "affected" public to seek and obtain correction of information not meeting DQ standards. It may be theoretically possible to mount a DQ challenge to specific FDA statements on T-Jone.

How about "not drinking."

(Off the top of my head, I can't spell it either. Teetotalling?)

Give that man a temperance badge!

What's his fuck has no standards. Just meet him behind the DQ.

"Mounting" a DQ challenge.

It all makes sense now.

Remind me never to go to Dairy Queen again.

This is the single most encouraging bit of info I've ever read on this topic.


P.S. Teetotaler is from tee (the letter t, as in total) + total + -er.

So here's what's going to happen:

Some online vendor is going to sell to someone under 21 and something bad is going to happen. I'm not just talking about Absinthe/Filterated Czeckerland Xit, but it could be. Some kid is going to do something stupid and kill himself/herself or others. More and more shipments of alcohol will be seized.

Or:

The Czeckerland/German Tujohns hype is going to get mentioned when some American idiot drinks too much of it. They purchased this order online. They are going to kill themselves and/or others. More and more shipments of alcohol will be seized.

Awww, people (including kids, people under 21) have been killing themselves with perfectly legalized alcohol for ages. Adding another alcohol to the mix isn't going to make a difference there.

Or , ... how about ,
the Jack boots get so good at collecting and collating information
That they succeed in making us
pay dearly
for
our
every
desire.

hey, jerkoff, how was absinthe originally banned?

some idiot getting drunk and doing stupid xit.


did it matter that the absinthe had nothing to do with it?

no.


Jackie O's right on.

oh, and this word censor that makes shi t turn into xit is really fucking annoying.

You need a drink my Friend.

i need many.

I thought it got banned because the wine makers capitalized on one fool's drunken rampage (I thought the fool was drinking more than just absinthe that day) so they could sell more wine. I didn't think it had anything to do with absinthe itself besides the fact that the absinthe market was killing the wine market. Besides, people kill themselves or others drinking all types of alcohol. That's all I was saying. Absinthe is just one more type of alcohol that people could kill themselves with. I could be wrong though. I'm sure you'll tell me if I am. Thank you in advance for insulting me again. :)

Right on!

Kirk:

Needing a drink seems to be your ultimate answer for anything.

Not that I'm sayin' it's a BAD answer.

that's the point, jizzbomb!!!!!!!

some assclown will order absinthe, drink a bottle, die, and the government will blame the death on it being Filterated Czeckerland Xit(most likely missing the e) and not on the fact that the retard drank a full bottle of 50-70% alcohol.

and then the witch-hunt will begin.

do we need to draw you fucking pictures for you to keep up?

Jizzbomb! That's a new one.

So how come they don't do witch hunts for all of the other alcohols that people kill themselves with. There are plenty of 50-70% alcohols out there that they could blame for senseless deaths and then they would have to take them all off the shelves.

And yes, pictures, charts and graphs would be nice.

Says the man who has drank more drinks
than I have created things.
I need nothing.
I am.

much like algae & moss, this fuckstick kirk is growing on me.

um, were not talking about anything LOGICAL, just what the government will do.

what grade are you in?

They don't have grades at my school. Plus, I forgot that we were talking about the government and how illogical "THEY" are.

grate.

Aw, you say that every time Special Ed comes out.

no.

i think special ed is funny.

unlike you.

The fact is, you don't have to be 21 to order liquor online. Some kid is going to order liquor (it DOESN'T have to be Absinthe/Filterated Czeckerland Xit) online...get into some sort of trouble and end up on the news.

I doubt the general public is even aware that you can order liquor overseas through the internet, and it doesn't appear that the online vendors are seriously checking the buyer's age.

A little responsibility goes a long way. Idiocy, on the other hand, never stops.

well, sometimes. like when i have to leave for the day.

Yeah, me too

Kirk:

You need nothing.

You are.

Now I remember

Why I'm

An Atheist.

CG and Jack are right. Unfortunately no politician is going to do anything to lift the ban because it would be BAD POLITICS. Instead the ban will either just disappear or there will be a scare campaign and witch hunt (the most likely scenario) because of some stupid kid shooting up a school and having some Czeckerland swill in his possession.

I think it will also become very difficult to obtain A.A. at some point so it's good to keep stocked up and maybe even to start planting it all over so it becomes a common "weed" and thus impossible to ban.

In the meantime, I still say it's best to keep a low profile and enjoy the bounty of HG's and Co's that there are. After that, maybe moving to a more civilized country would be good.

It already is a weed in a great deal of the midwest from what I have been told.

Try looking near old abandoned railroad tracks. It seems to like open ground and full sun. You should be doing this anyway (or growing your own) if you want to get it at just the right time.

It's not like other common weeds aren't banned as illegal drugs in this county.

I mostly agree with Jack.

Some stupid kid will do something really stupid involving absinthe and some wise journalist will capitalise on the myth to sell his story. Will it really change anything in the long run? I doubt.


If absinthe really becomes popular before the ban is lifted, I also expect some backstabing amongst competitors and all kind of ugly things related to competition in an unruled market.


Humans are bad and evil and can't just let the average man enjoy his daily glass of absinthe !


How to avoid this risk ? Close all absinthe related forums and make sure no other will open ? Keep all the absinthe for a chosen secret elite ? That would be sad, unjust for newbees, bad for the business and impossible to do anyway.

There's nothing we can do about it but hope for the best, except maybe keep trying to educate people.