artifex
May 13 2004, 04:33 AM
Ok, so last night, I tried my first taste of LDF's Fougerolle verte 72.
My first thought was "Ok, so this is Un Emile Lite."
As I pondered this, I realized that it was probably because I diluted it more due to the higher alcohol content (albeit, only 4% more than Un Emile 68) so that diluted the flavor somewhat.
There's a very heavy undertone in this stuff that I can't put my finger on... Perhaps it's something from the wormwood. I can taste it in other absinthes, but it seems to stand out more in FG.
It's no Un Emile, but I like it.
DrinkSlinger
May 13 2004, 04:44 AM
Probably the wine alcohol.
artifex
May 13 2004, 10:30 AM
Yeah, I bet that's it. I kind of suspected that, but wanted someone else to suggest it before I assumed that's what it was.
Absinthe_1900
May 13 2004, 12:25 PM
Let it rest for awhile and it will subside.
It didn't seem to be quite as noticeable in the second run, the first seemed somewhat stronger.
The guys at LDF are making progress,....... picture discussing a distilled absinthe with a grape alcohol base three or four years ago. (Segarra being the only exception)
verbal_kraze
May 13 2004, 12:59 PM
I've tried it side-by-side with the Un Emile a few times now, and IMHO it is much more complex in flavor, and just plain tastes better. The UE used to be my favorite CO, but after trying the new Fou, I probably won't ever buy the UE again. The UE just has a "earthy" dirt like flavor to it, that I don't really like.
DrinkSlinger
May 13 2004, 04:09 PM
That's the "semi-fine" method kicking you in the tastebuds. I'd really like to taste an emile before being diluted with neutral spirits.
It might be pretty good.
sixela
May 14 2004, 02:57 AM
QUOTE(artifex @ May 13 2004, 03:33 PM)
There's a very heavy undertone in this stuff that I can't put my finger on... Perhaps it's something from the wormwood. I can taste it in other absinthes, but it seems to stand out more in FG.
Veronica? Tea-like flavour?
artifex
May 17 2004, 11:35 AM
Tea like? Hmmm... not sure, guess I'll have to re-taste and see.
Sixela, is that Sindarin in your siggi line?
sixela
May 19 2004, 05:29 AM
QUOTE(artifex @ May 17 2004, 10:35 PM)
Tea like? Hmmm... not sure, guess I'll have to re-taste and see.
Sixela, is that Sindarin in your siggi line?
Them's fightin' words!
It's Quenya. You should have noticed it was a highly inflected language, and the sound shifts from Archaic Elvish into the sounds present aren't right for Sindarin.
The first line is a morph of my name (meaning of Greek root of first name translated to Quenya, French meaning of last name translated to Quenya, etymological root of my place of abode in Dutch translated to Quenya).
The second is a quote that anyone will find with google (or with a copy of the Lord of The Rings. See the Fellowship's passage through Lothlorien), asking "Who will now refill the cup for me?".
The third line used to be a follow-up on that lament, asking when my bottles would arrive from the moon, but I've changed it, as they have now arrived (well, not all of them yet, but...).

There are already enough posts here discussing Quenya grammar and inflections (with, amongst others, all the different interpretations of "sheep professor" translated in Quenya).
Jack and CG

then, so I'm not going to repeat myself.
lambchop
May 19 2004, 05:32 AM
sixela
May 19 2004, 05:39 AM
Because I'm not going to repeat myself, or because I'm being geeky again?
lambchop
May 19 2004, 05:40 AM
The latter.
lambchop
May 19 2004, 05:40 AM
And a little bit of the former.
CelticGent
May 19 2004, 05:57 AM
i like the way that you quoted the post right above yours.
how very rebellious of you.
artifex
May 19 2004, 06:26 AM
I just figured it was Sindarin since Quenya as a spoken tongue was abolished by Thingol when he learnt that the Noldor had killed many Teleri and stolen their ships to get back to Middle-earth: "Never again in my ears shall be heard the tongue of those who slew my kin in Alqualondë! Nor in all my realm shall it be openly spoken." Consequently "the Exiles took the Sindarin tongue in all their daily uses"
You mentioned that it was spoken in Lothlorien, which would have one believe it is a Silvan tongue, but by the end of the Third Age, the Silvan tongues had probably ceased to be spoken in the two regions that had importance at the time of the War of the Ring: Lórien and the realm of Thranduil in northern Mirkwood.
True, we get the impression from LotR1/II ch. 6 that the language used in Lórien was some strange Wood-elven tongue, but a footnote in LotR Appendix F explains that in Frodo's day, Sindarin was indeed spoken in Lórien, "though with an 'accent', since most of its folk were of Silvan origin. This 'accent' and his own limited acquaintance with Sindarin misled Frodo (as is pointed out in The Thain's Book by a commentator of Gondor)". UT:257 elaborates on this: "In Lórien, where many of the people were Sindar in origin, or Noldor, survivors from Eregion, Sindarin had become the language of all the people. In what way their Sindarin differed from the forms of Beleriand - see [LotR1] II 6, where Frodo reports that the speech of the Silvan folk that they used among themselves was unlike that of the West - is not of course now known. It probably differed in little more than what would now be popularly called 'accent': mainly differences of vowel-sounds and intonation sufficient to mislead one who, like Frodo, was not well acquainted with purer Sindarin. There may of course also have been some local words and other features ultimately due to the influence of the former Silvan tongue." Standard Sindarin, with no "accent", was evidently spoken in Rivendell and among Círdan's people in the Havens.
Porkio
May 19 2004, 07:03 AM
Uh oh....
Justin
May 19 2004, 07:06 AM
Ssshhh!
don't make fun of them or they will hit you with a 3d20 pimple of doom spell
Absinthe_1900
May 19 2004, 07:09 AM
It's like watching Michael Jackson fans.......
artifex
May 19 2004, 07:35 AM
Actually I only have the vaguest clue of what I'm talking about. I saw his signature line and "sindarin" just sort of popped into my head - I had no idea in all reality. If we are to believe the information I plaigarized above, then it was a lucky guess.
Porkio, where did you find your avatar? I always meant to comment that it's pretty cool.
Larspeart
May 19 2004, 07:44 AM
Just placed my first order for a bottle of Fudgeroll 5 minutes ago.
mmmm, anticipation.
Absomphe
May 19 2004, 07:46 AM
Is it there yet?
See, Peter, I can be nice.
lanterne_verte
May 19 2004, 07:53 AM
Hey Celticgent! Guess What! I got a fever! And the only prescription...is more cowbell!
artifex
May 19 2004, 08:57 AM
The more of this stuff I taste, the better I like it....
jaded prol
May 19 2004, 06:40 PM
To late for you. May god have mercy on your twisted soul.
DrinkSlinger
May 19 2004, 06:41 PM
and may your credit card give you good rates.
TrainerAZ
May 19 2004, 07:21 PM
Hmmm, I knew the Penguin was a LAGN, but I didn't know he was a geek . . .
I withdraw my LAGN Minion application. Maybe I can be one of Crosby's Dee Snyder-Butty Imitator Minions.
Grey Boy
May 19 2004, 07:26 PM
How about you withdraw your Lounge application.
DrinkSlinger
May 19 2004, 07:41 PM
WTF? I understand the mayor being a homophobicdouchebagattentionwhore... but everyone else seems to be jumping on the "I hate SPAZ-ASS wagon"
xit people, relax! SPAZ-ASS is one of us... although he is a bit off.
Grey Boy
May 19 2004, 07:47 PM
MMmmmm, ok,
but he's fucked.
Though prolly knows more info than my Boston drinkin' bud.
DrinkSlinger
May 19 2004, 07:50 PM
At least about "lube"...
Larspeart
May 20 2004, 06:04 AM
Buncha Mayorial ass-kissers/xit-eaters.
I like having SPAZ-ASS around just BECAUSE he pisses the mayor off.
DrinkSlinger
May 20 2004, 06:10 AM

The mayor's just pissed on a cuz SPAZ-ASS got more action in Seattle than he did.
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 06:11 AM
QUOTE(DrinkSlinger @ May 19 2004, 11:41 PM)
everyone else seems to be jumping on the "I hate SPAZ-ASS wagon"
fuck, i hate everybody.
DrinkSlinger
May 20 2004, 06:12 AM
...and everyone hates you, 'ya big sober bastard.
(Welcome to my club)
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 06:13 AM
don't hate me because I'm beautiful.
hate me because i'm an obnoxious fucking asshole.
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 06:16 AM
plus i fucked your mom.
DrinkSlinger
May 20 2004, 06:17 AM
Absomphe
May 20 2004, 07:07 AM
Liar, liar,
Wool on fire.
You can't love me, I'm unlovable, cuz I'm a Nostril.
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 07:15 AM
still have no idea what the nostril bullshit is, and don't care.
i take it back. i don't hate everybody. i love lammy.
but i hate everybody else.
fuck you all.
lambchop
May 20 2004, 07:18 AM
Hiram
May 20 2004, 07:23 AM
I can't fucking believe Sixer's a goddamned hobbit geek. A mind is indeed a terrible thing to waste.
QUOTE
Actually I only have the vaguest clue of what I'm talking about... I had no idea in all reality. If we are to believe the information I plaigarized above, then it was a lucky guess.
Nice cover, Arti. The fact that you know what Sindarin is is damning enough.
Larspeart
May 20 2004, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(DrinkSlinger @ May 20 2004, 10:10 AM)

The mayor's just pissed on a cuz SPAZ-ASS got more action in Seattle than he did.
Big shock that someone else is more appealing then the mayor,
artifex
May 20 2004, 10:09 AM
QUOTE(Hiram @ May 20 2004, 11:23 AM)
...Nice cover, Arti. The fact that you know what Sindarin is is damning enough.
Guess I can't fool anyone here, ya got me.
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 10:11 AM
QUOTE(Larspeart @ May 20 2004, 11:53 AM)
Big shock that someone else is more appealing then the mayor,
verbal_kraze
May 20 2004, 12:13 PM
VIVA LA NOSTRILLA!!!
CelticGent
May 20 2004, 12:14 PM
Italian Retard Out Cruisin'
Larspeart
May 26 2004, 07:02 AM
sixela
May 26 2004, 07:29 AM
QUOTE(artifex @ May 19 2004, 05:26 PM)
"the Exiles took the Sindarin tongue in all their daily uses"
[To all those who think this is bitter ernst -- don't worry. I'm still from this world]
Who says a signature is daily use?
QUOTE
You mentioned that it was spoken in Lothlorien,

It is still the ceremonial language in the Third Age, and the language of lore and poetry, and I'm sure you know who Galadriel is (and where she comes from).
Quenya is certainly fitting for a lament about the lost bliss of Aman, and Tolkien certainly seemed to agree.
I'd suggest you to actually read the book to find the quote.
Then you may utter "Ye! Utuvienyes!" -- another bit of Quenya recorded as spoken in the Third Age ;).
Justin
May 26 2004, 07:32 AM
My "Sixer to English" translator totally broke down on that one.
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