About this "secondaries" thing. The supposed effect that is above and beyond alcohol? Do I understand this correctly? Well, whether it is due to thujon, or the blend of other herbs, or is just a placebo effect, I'm going to have an absinthe soon, and get on this board and try to see if I can describe a difference from a regular alcohol buzz. It'll be a research project. And, as we all know, research should be duplicated in order to demonstrate validity.

BattleAx

The effects are different for everyone. For some it's no different that any other booze. For others there is a cleaner, clearer buzz. Let us know how it works for you.

The secondary effect of drinking absinthe seems to be the draining of my bank account.

Actually, that might be the primary effect.

Basically, I totally Trip Balz™ when I drink Filterated Czeckerland Xit.

After a few glasses the effects for me a dirty stares from the wife.

Not everyone gets secondaries, and you shouldn't feel gypped if you don't get them -- they're not the "E-Ticket" that beginners are primed to expect. If you're sensitive to secondaries, it's sort of like being awake at the center, surrounded by a buzz. The body takes the alcohol hit, while the brain retains a kind of alertness. But whether or not you experience secondaries, it's a lovely drink. The secondaries are.....well, secondary.

People who get rat-legged on the stuff talk about heightened visual and auditory perception. That happens to me if I drink enough of anything.

(While I can feel the effect of even two martinis the following day, by the way, I've never felt any hangover from a couple of absinthes. Mind you, I steer clear of Czeckerland drain cleaner.)

Have fun!

Agreed on the hangover part. After 6 glasses (3 commercial and 3 HG) on Wed. night, I felt great on Thursday morning. I don't really feel any "secondaries", from the commercial brands at least.

Perhaps if you were a bit more "friendly" after a few glasses. You know, like going out and buying her jewelry.

She makes her own, she doesn't need any more.
I did get her a very rare, expensive set of glass beads for our anniversary.
I still get the stares, mainly due to slurring and the John Wayne stumble/walk.

Oh. Well in that case, drink only Butty's elixers. She guarantees that you will remain clear headed due to all the fine high quality THUJONE!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING!!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING!. That, or theyare so watered down and overpriced that you won't be consuming all that much.

That Gertz essence chit really fucks me up!

Hmmm........

I'll stick to the dirty stares, thanks.

This was meant for thegreenone,
but works for what JBM said.

Well here I am and I just made one. With a righteous sugar cube this time. I realize after this first use of this spoon, that I must pursue obtaining a real silver one forthwith! This is a cheap old thing.

BattleAx

Save your money. Buy Gertz essence.

Gertz gives me the squertz.

Well! This stuff is absolutely delicious! Now, I am certainly more clear headed than after an equivalent (1 glass) of wine. I will say this seems nothing at all like a pot buzz (if memory serves) so I guess they are right that the THC thing was a myth. Don't know about "secondary" or not. I'll just have to do more experimenting.

So, if all the artists can do creative stuff with this, should I go pick up a pen and write something? Or paint a picture? Maybe I will.

BattleAx

You must be drinking Gertz.


You must be drinking something other than Gertz.

Pick up a knife and come with me to Belgia.

I'll be happy to Adolph. But I must warn you, I only attack evil people.

BattleAx

Hey off Jack batemaster... ha ha ha!!! Did I get that right? :-) Okay now I forgot what we were talking about.... oh!! Gertz? No, it is Un Emile 68 I'm drinking. Or is that 86??

BattleAx

No drug can make a person more creative than s/he is able . . . at most, it can reduce inhibitions.

I, like many others, have a theory. My theory is that artists and writers favored absinthe over other alcoholic beverages because they were able to get drunk enough to lose some inhibition (can you say, "writer's block"?), but clearheaded enough to continue to work.

Question.... when I drink a screwdriver, I only have one. When I drink wine, I only have one. I have now had two glasses of this stuff. I want a third. How much is too much? It's delicious. Now, I do NOT have a proper Absinthe glass! I must correct that situation and go buy one. But anyway, not now. SO I am using some other kind of glass and it is not that big. Maybe my doses are too small. Anyhow, this is great fun.

BattleAx

oh damn

Hey TrainerAZ yes, yes yes, I have writer's block! I cannot get past it and this was one motive for me to try this stuff. Excuse me I gotta go make another one



okay I'm back. where was I? oh writing. I am a writer of sorts and am working on a proejct and am stuck, stuck. Maybe this will help. :-)

BattleAx

It won't help


You gotta prime the pump -- try reading stuff that inspires you stylistically or subjectively.

BattleAx be forewarned-

Absinthe will ruin your life and empty your bank account simultaneously. Your tolerance level will sky rocket which might make you think to yourself that you can drink anyone under the table. You'll find that you won't be able to remember a damn thing shortly and your sense of reality will be skewed and distorted to something that you think you recognize but it really won't make any sense whatsoever.

Aside from that, it does taste great!!! Enjoy your ride with the Green Fairy.

You might as well make friends with her cause she'll be around for a loooooong time.

-Seacrest OUT!

I look down the bar, I say to my bartender, I said look man, come down here
He got down there
He said what you want this time?
I said look man, what time is it?
He said clock on the wall says 3 o clock, last call for alcohol
So what you need?


One Bourbon, One Scotch and one BEEEEEAAAHR!

Why do we always come here
I guess we'll never know
It's like a kind of torture
To have to watch the show

And now let's get things started
Why don't you get things started
It's time to get things started
On the most sensational inspirational celebrational Muppetational
This is what we call the Muppet Show!

You too!?

Actually, last Saturday night; she came home after a friend and I had had about 10 apiece and said that we both had an appearance on our faces of a "visage"(sp?)

and had also noted this appearance on myself numerous times and also on Raindog when he was here.

I presume both were more than the look of a mere drunken stupor

What they said. An expensive, perverse and self destuctive obsession.

Welcome to our world.

Beer gets to be the same for me some times. Like now. I had a ... I forgot. Oh, yea, Aventinus to start with. Now I'm drinking a Belgian Dark a buddy brewed. They all are kicking my ass.

Absinthe is different for me.

It is a plesant diversion after work while perparing dinner.

I normally get the clear-headedness.

I don't know how else to describe it. I seem to be overly sensetive to it, as I get it from everything except Filterated Czeckerland Xit (Which I refuse to finish) .

If'n you wanna bear, just talk to CG.

Not sure what his wife will think about it, but that's their business.

Jesus that's scary. Are you reading my journal?

First, the one bourbon, one scotch and one beeeeeeeear song is one of my husband's favorites. He plays it all the time. Maybe there's hope for him after all.

As for the warning about falling into the expensive self destructive green fairy trap, I can see your point. I never wanted to quit drinking it last night. But here's what happened. I was sitting in bed writing, with what turned out to be my last glass and my husband came home. He was supposed to be out of town for two more days! So he says, "How are you?" I said "Fine." And he starts walking out the room. I said "Where are YOU going?" in the "you're not going anywhere" tone, and he turned and looked harder at me and said, "you've been drinking...." at which point I broke into giggles. So then he says, "WHAT have you been drinking?" and I said, "some new liqueur I got". He asked no more questions.

So, how's that? "some new liqueur". There, I'm priming him... softening him for the kill. By the time he knows the full story he'll be so sold on its effects on me he won't care if its not strictly on the up'n'up.

But about the way it's going to ruin my life, we'll have to see. I woke up at 3:00 am feeling like total doo-doo. That always happens when I drink too much and I guess the Pavlov's dog effect is why I seldom drink too much. The hangover ain't worth it. So I got up and ate something and went back to sleep. Now I'm fine. We will just have to see what wins out. I know one thing, I really can't keep buying the stuff or hubby will notice the drain on the checking account. He likes sex, but he likes money a lot too.

In any case, whether hopeless addiction or mere sometimes indulgence, I am going to LOOOOOOVE my life with my new found green friend. :-))

BattleAx

Oh, and about the writing. No, it certainly did not make ideas flow that would not have flowed anyway. But it did put me in a happy mood, and being in a happy mood is always good for writing. I found it easy to put the ideas on paper, so in that way it was beneficial. But the effects don't last very long, and drinking more to prolong the effects rapidly gets me too drunk to write so I don't see it as being any overall advantage to writing.

Edit added: Yes, Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthed prol, I do read lots of stuff to inspire me. You are correct, that is the best way to get the creativity flowing.

BattleAx

You asked how much is too much?

Try not to run out. I find even if I am not drinking the stuff, If I have the option to it is better for my mental state that I have the option.

For what it's worth - I definitely get a secondary buzz from absinthe that reminds me of when I smoked dope...



I know that the crowd here isn't much for Mata Hari, but after 3 drinks of Mata (with about 2 oz of absinthe in each)



I feel like I could eat the entire planet
(and sometimes I try).

On the pot thing:



On tolerance levels: If you haven't found out yet, you soon shall, and you'll gain a whole new respect for the ass-whuppin' Green Fairy.

On Art: See my sig line.

Welcome aboard!

- H

That one is quite easy to understand Absinthe is an aperitif, and it will stimulate the appetite.

Great avatar Stone Fox, that should help you make a lot of friends here.

You know of course that the t-jone and THC molecules are friends and hang out at bars together. This could explain the munchies, cause I know I get the muchies after hanging out at bars with my friends. Even more successful and powerful friends with whom I have nothing in common.

(edit)
Ignore the I'm a grumpy bastard in the morning.
Welcome newbie

Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder. Hee hee.... I just thought of that. Or is it something you guys already say? If I really am the first to come up with it, maybe I'll make it my signature.

BattleAx

I told ya...

It's too bad that Mata Hari isn't really absinthe......

All the more reason for your to come back and clean house!

Why clean house? Newbies aren't allowed to join?

Uh, unless there's a new boss in town new members are always welcome. They'll learn about the proper forum decor, and what not to ask... as always.

... I tell ya so.

Newbians are always welcome.
Newbians (mostly) used to get the how
it worked here by reading the posts.
Now they see how it is here and this is
what ya get.

I loved when Baa Baa Doc would tell
someone they are welcome if they get it,
but, if they don't, fuck off and who cares?

And this old boss still hasn't left.
I took some time off, it's 2 months until
my gold watch, I'll do/say what I want.
Like always.