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I'm Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthed.

You keep comparing todays Japaese autos to Harley Davidson of the 70s.

Stick to one decade. Stick to one product. Early Japanese cars were a laugh. Early motorcycles had as many problems as Harley (in the 70s).

(1) The JD Powers CS on Harley is as good as Honda Motorcycles.

(2) there is a definate bias on the part of buyers of Japanese labeled automobiles.

This can be seen from the disparity of the JDP reports on the same model vehicle sold under both US and Japanese labels.

The Japenese label automobile is consistently rated better, even though they come off the same assembly line (The Honda plant in Ohio is one such line).

This is not to say that Big 3 automobiles are necesarly as good as Japanese cars, but the bias has to be accounted for if you want to make a truly accurate comparison.

I don't care about initial buyer reports. I want to know what is still on the road after 15 to 20 years and what it cost to maintain.

My 1986 Suburban and 1987 Celebrity are still running great. The AC is out in both, but I've yet to see a external drive compressor that lasts more than about 10-12 years. Maintnance cost of both is less than comparable Honda and Toyota models according to friends who dirve those models of older cars, and the personel at Advanced Auto, and AutoZone.

my yugo will run circles around your stupid chevys.

and i'll let you know how the honda motorbike that i just bought holds up.

although it's my first bike, so i'll probably get something bigger in a couple years, and don't really care if it lasts after i get rid of it.

Wow... This just keeps going...
Ahh.. Much like my car, which by the way, is American... BWAAHAHA!

Correct - and that didn't happen until they had their parts made in Japan. (Check it if you don't believe me.)




Also correct. And how could such a thing come to pass?

Face it - Quality comes as a result of the use of modern tools and techniques. In every industry, those who adopt these changes prevail. The others bite the dust.

Art is for art lovers. Effectively, efficiently made product is for those that like quality without having to pay $150 a bottle for it.

If you want to get away from cars, let's talk California wines vs French wines - Everyone was spouting the very same artsy-fartsy trash about how California couldn't possible overwhelm France with it's rich 'history' and years and years of experience and expertise.

We know today that is pure BS (and, by the way, California wines are made in mass quantities using modern techniques, etc - just like Japanese cars).

Learn from history. The best is yet to come. And it won't be coming from Ned or be sold by Markus (Hartsmarr) unless they wise up quick - which history says is rather unlikely.

And is that, anyway?

They started using Japanese parts in the 60s dumb ass. They still use the same Japanese parts. Most of the parts are made in the us. Thir primary japanese parts are suspension (which is notably some of the worst in the industry), tires, and carburation.

The finest wines still come from France. Consistently good to very good wines come from the US, and Australia.

This is like arguing with Dr. O.

I quit.

Man, these Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe secondaries are starting to hit me real hard. I've started imaging that a thread on Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe tasting notes has turned into an automotive column. Even I think that's weird and I'm a columnist for an automotive magazine (no, I will not say which one).

ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING CAR TALK!!!!!

You tell 'em Rimster!!!

Back to Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe...

This SV makes me trip balz, I think I'll have another.

Absomphe... Me too, and you know what, I gladly pay the money it costs.

Oh, and Stonefox... BWAHAHAHAAA, is laughter. You should try it sometime.

I think I've officially tried every recommended Balz™-trippin' brand to no avail.
I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with the fact that I actually enjoy the taste of a finely-crafted product.

I feel so slighted.

Bet you haven't tried Filterated Czeckerland Xit King of Spirits.

I've heard it makes you trip serious Balz.

Rumor has it that there will soon be a side by side tasting between the King and Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe.
A true clash of titans.

I thought I KNEW who you were, Adolph...

Now I'm beginning to think you're Mrs. Absomphe.

Me too, my Viking friend...

It's wonderful, the pleasure that pictures of dead presidents, kings, and queens can buy.

Not that you ever would, but if you were to drink Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe while behond the wheel of a fine automobile, which model & make would it be?

The Green Monster, landspeed record setter, from those bygone days.

Man, just because technology SOMETIMES helps improve quality does not mean that something cannot be high quality if it isn't made with modern technology.

Your statement also has no application in regards to absinthe distillation whatsoever. The best Absinthes I've ever had are made using equipment that has for the most part remained unchanged in design for over 150 years. Why re-invent the wheel when the traditional way of doing it lends spectacular results? Ever had a hand-made chocolate? Compare that to a Hershey bar made with "modern" technology (Hershey bars are 20% wax, by the way), and tell me which is better, dumbass.

There's no point in arguing with you since:
A) You know nothing about liquour distillation
B) Your avatar has a flaming sugar cube in it

Why does ANYONE bother with this fuckhead?

and the other 80% is plastic...

How the fuck do you know?

Those who make the best absinthe are capable of doing so because they have learned from history, and they are using proven historical techniques to make an excellent product. Ned used modern technology (sophisticated GC analysis and other methods) to aide him in understanding what was historically done, but the end product is made using the original equipment and techniques because that's the best way to create an historically accurate absinthe.

In contrast, today's Pernod Absinthe, which is made using more "modern" methods, is 750ml of Nyquil. They ignored their historical roots and decided to be high tech and cheap.

Stonefox, either you're somebody's bemused puppet, an idiot-troll, or worse.

Get lost, wannabe know-it-all-norom.

Look, if SF wants to continue consuming the Big Mac of absinthe, so be it.
If she's in it for the high cholesterol, that's just fine by me.
She'll achieve her goal.

But if I'm going to continue to poison my body, I wish to enjoy the ride.

So, modern technology will always produce better products?

Why? Because you said so?

As the scheming Hartsmar would say (or type):

BWAHAHAHAAA

You get lost, puppet. (Oh, I'm sorry - you are already lost.)

And back to a positive note... My Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe came today and I think I will be having sex with the NO68 tonight because I am in fucking love... I will be letting my VS65 age for a little while longer so I have no information on that yet but the NO68 is kick ass...

After listening to some of the crap Stonefox said I have come to the conclusion that it is not sugar on that spoon but crack...

Also on a side note: My Rabbit had no issues at all with my NO68 cork... Not sure what is going on with some of the others out there...

Now it's back to drinking for me...

(Edit for typing... I'm on my 3rd glass so cut me some slack...)

I refuse to be anything but amused by people like SF.
I think the drinking helps.

What I lack in tolerance for alcohol, I make up for in other ways.

I didn't have crumbly cork issues, either. Just wax bits issues and fat swollen won't-go-back-in cork issues.

HEY!

This Wednesday on the History Channel, the show Modern Marvels is all about . . . you guessed it . . . DISTILLERIES!

Now we can all learn everything we never got a chance to ask about distilleries.

So we'll all be sitting in our respective home, watching the same show while drunk.

Sounds like conference calls waiting to happen.

Here is my cure for that nice fat cork...



I use a stopper...

WWHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Or use of the chat room.

I rather enjoy SF's posts too.

Its a lot like being a spectator at the special olympics.
SF will certainly come home with a very pretty medal.

Stupid people are fun.

Damn, I've missed you!

Ah -- a flame war?

How fitting.

Ofcourse it won't... I don't have a license to sell any liqour, much less going to happen since LdF has the exclusive right to the products...

What the fuck are you really talking about anyways?!

Now, who's the one to be doing his homework, fuckhead.

Funny - you certainly ACT like Markkus

Or should I say, you certainly act like an asshole - Markkus.

It's not just technology. It's the way technology is used in competitve business.

Intelligent use of technology has always prevailed over 'artisanship' to make better products that become available to more people.

You may be able to smell whether an ingredient is 'good' or not, but you'll never know if it will combine with the other ingredients to make the same product as last time - particularly in big batches unless you've got a way to control where it's been and what happens to it.

An artisan may be able to regularly create a masterpiece, but they won't be the same as each other, and eventually that expertise will be degraded or missing. Consistency is King - the great majority of consumers would prefer a consistent level of 'good' than a variable level that ranges from mediocre (or worse) to (sometimes) great.

To ignore that is to ignore history and to ignore history is to be doomed to repeat it.

I suggest you TONE down on the insults.

Abby, greeneyes and I (and surely others) are at least intrigued by your posts (and/or amused) when they're well put, and try to convey a point.

Flamewars, on the other hand, are sooo '80s, and if you continue to indulge in them, everyone will think you're stupid -- which, in these parts, is far worse than being a fuckhead.

And I suspect you're not stupid, so you should know better.

I believe you do have some serious issues you need taken care of.
Either you're mistaking me for someone else, or you really are as dumb as you come out to be.

Call me what you will, but you do -- apparently, NOT have one single clue of what you're talking about.

Hartsmar, I'm waitng to hear how the VS compares to the Berger you sampled in the past.

I believe I gave a short note on that earlier on in here... Maybe in Tasting notes, pt 2... I will put up a review, hopefully tonight.

Right here...

Point taken.

Won't have much more time to educate the masses anyway - Conference is almost over - time to go back to work.

Those of you that are intrigued - check it out, as it's a good rule of thumb for your investments, both professional and personal.

The rest of you (which historically will always be the majority), rest assured that many have come before you and that many more will follow. (Although until now, not being alone hasn't helped very much those that become displaced or misled by those that hold [or staunchly support] antiquated beliefs.)

Good luck - and hopefully all (or at least most) will still be here later when we can compare notes again.

L8r.

Then thanks and praise to Ned for his fine acheivement --

the spicy angelica and the sweet
pleasure of anise, the grapey richness and the mustiness
of old wood,

the essence of flowery summer meadows and the
pleasure of fine absinthe
that makes all things good!