Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 05:37 PM
There is a strange phenomenon regarding absinthe. HGs are better than commercial brews.
This is what every poll of absinthe experts tells us. Up in the list are some commercial products like Un Emile or Francois Guy, but there is always the caveat that the non plus ultra are some (usually unobtainable) HGs.
Why is that? One does not see whisky people praising home-made whiskys, or, perish the thought, wine connaisseurs praising home-made wine. Au contraire.
There is an exception for home made beers. Home brews are usually very good, but not really superior to the top quality beers.
I doubt that your regular HGer has access to wine alcohol, to be able to reproduce faithfully what Pernod did.
So why are HGs superior to absinthes brewed by distilling houses with Distilling Masters and hundreds of years of experience, guided by guys like Peter and Ian, who know all the old recipes and pretty much everything worth to know about absinthe?
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 05:43 PM
They taste better.
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 05:45 PM
Not all HG's are superior though.
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 05:47 PM
"So why are HGs superior to absinthes brewed by distilling houses with Distilling Masters and hundreds of years of experience, guided by guys like Peter and Ian, who know all the old recipes and pretty much everything worth to know about absinthe?"
Pernot does as he pleases, he is making the old family recipe. The blanche and Sapin are just tweaks of that recipe.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 05:54 PM
Hey, Cros, I see you have been taking lessons from Master Ned.
Three posts and not a single bit of information...
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:00 PM
I can't help that you lack a grasp of the obvious. I also doubt anyone here wants to debate with you how the bitterness and THUJONE!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING!!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING! aged out of vintage Pernod.
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:00 PM
Why so snippy doc?
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:03 PM
Can you repeat that, Cros? In English...
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:04 PM
Why, it wouldn't matter.
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:10 PM
You are coming across like a scolded child doc, but do go on.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:11 PM
"I can't help that you lack a grasp of the obvious. I also doubt anyone here wants to debate with you how the bitterness and THUJONE!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING!!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING!!!!-this stuff has nothing to do w/the buzz from absinthe, NOTHING! aged out of vintage Pernod. "
Well, you see, Cros, English not being my first language, I want to be sure that I understand correctly what you meant.
Because, prima facie, it sounds like like a mad rant to me. The good news is that it reminds me of Don. I miss him...
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:18 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 09:08 PM)
Well, you see, Cros, English not being my first language, I want to be sure that I understand correctly what you meant.
Then, instead of prompting Cros to repeat in english... why not ask for it in your native tongue.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:22 PM
Bueno. Hola, Cruz, hijo de mil putas, porque no te dejas de joder con la puta Artemisia absinthium de mi receta de hace tiempo y te preocupas por tu puta vida.
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:24 PM
You don't deal with criticism very well do you?
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:27 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 09:19 PM)
Bueno. Hola, Cruz, hijo de mil putas, porque no te dejas de joder con la puta Artemisia absinthium de mi receta de hace tiempo y te preocupas por tu puta vida.
Not exactly what I meant Doc, but that was funny.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:29 PM
Not from a Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupie like Crosby, no I don't.
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 06:31 PM
And you feel superior because....?
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:35 PM
I don't feel superior. I'm just not taking any shit from Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupies like Crosby.
DGLeadbetter
Nov 21 2003, 06:36 PM
ANYWAY ..... Come on guys, let's all play nice, yes?
Much like the outstanding microbrews, I think it's the feeling put into the product. The mechanics of it is important, but it's the love, passion and care that make something great. I'm sure it's the same with the HG .... Can't wait to try some.
DG
greeneyes
Nov 21 2003, 06:40 PM
Everybody here takes shit from someone or another. Your tone, Herr Doktor, expresses a keen desire to be given shit. You should be honored that Cros has taken the time to attend to you.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:40 PM
Yes, good point, let's go back to subject.
How could it be that people with no distilling experience, with no equipment, can beat the big guys?
DGLeadbetter
Nov 21 2003, 06:41 PM
If I may, use the illustration of Linux to Microsoft.
DG
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 06:26 PM)
Not from a Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupie like Crosby, no I don't.
Wrong again.
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:45 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 06:08 PM)
The good news is that it reminds me of Don. I miss him...
At least you admit it. He wasted a lot of time replying to your nonsense.
balzdeep
Nov 21 2003, 06:49 PM
"Why is HG so good?"
'Cause God made it that way. Enough said. Next question!
Why are boobies so much fun to look at?
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:50 PM
QUOTE(balzdeep @ Nov 21 2003, 06:46 PM)
Why are boobies so much fun to look at?
Ask Jack.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 06:51 PM
Fucking fine, Crosby. I was wrong about A. absinthium and I'm wrong about you being a Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupie, and about you swallowing Ned's comments about "Pernod Fils not knowing how to make authentic absinthe" and both Ned and Don's comments about being the "only ones" in the world who could make "authentic absinthe" while Don was posting about distilling "tons of sucrose" a week.
Some "authentic" absinthe...
One unknown chemist out of Nowhere, USA, and an ex-spook, neither of which had any distilling background. They were going to teach Pernod how to make absinthe... Pathetic...
You swallowed that shit for years.
Yeah, keep worrying about my coloring step, you hipocryte.
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:52 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 06:26 PM)
Not from a Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupie like Crosby, no I don't.
It's sad to see your mental condition deteriorating at such an alarming rate. Where the fuck do you come up with this shit?
greeneyes
Nov 21 2003, 06:55 PM
He finds it in his diaper.
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:56 PM
The best description of you came from another member:
"The little toy robot walking into the wall, over and over".
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 06:57 PM
Not you Peepers.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 07:00 PM
Hell, two, three years ago I was the bad guy at Sepulchritude because I was the only one to say that the Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absintheites were bullshit.
Now I'm the bad guy here. I'm used to it.
I'm here. Where's Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe?
Ned is being a celebrity owing to the fact that he is a celebrity. Don is running an S/M disco in Thailand.
1888
Nov 21 2003, 07:03 PM
#1... What's a Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthe groupie? Sounds like some made up shit to me.
#2... Emile, François Guy, Kubler, Segarra are all VERY fine example of commercial HG's... how's that?
#3... I've touched on this before; personal HG's are just that... personal. We have about 6 or 7 extremely talented HG crafters on board here who put in a lot of time and effort (and money) to their craft... I'm sure as much as the commercial HG crafters do. The difference? We have a personal relationship with these folks and they listen very, very closely to what the pulse whispers. It's more of an intimate community with the smaller, independent HG crafters. We're fortunate to have reps from Emile on board and they listen to us and divulge information. and that's what it's all about... sharing. I doubt anyone here personally knows anyone from Segarra, Kubler or Guy... if they do, then I stand corrected. It's much like the difference between Walmart and Jack's House-O-Wares. Walmart appeals 'nationally' to a broad audience where Jack's House-O-Wares appeals to us locally because he knows his client base pretty well and has devoted time in listening to what they have to say and offer and then adjusts his inventory accordingly... therefore the perception becomes this: Jack's House-O-Wares is better because his store is more intimate and sensitive to the community for which he serves.
#4... If you're going to come here just to stir up shit, please do yourself a favor and don't. You'll have so many CC members up your ass you'll need a Czeckerland method enema to get them out!
#5... Mind the advice of Ms. Peeps and turn the 'tone' controls down! Like now.
#6... Leave Crosby alone.
THE END.
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 07:05 PM
Well put Digit.
Absinthe_1900
Nov 21 2003, 07:06 PM

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Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 07:11 PM
Okay, I will leave Crosby alone.
I would still like more info about how HGs got to be premium in a lot of people's minds.
1888
Nov 21 2003, 07:13 PM
Dr. O, were you the guy that said someone pissed in your HG at the NYC funky-fest?
You're not going to turn your gig into this are you...???
1888
Nov 21 2003, 07:15 PM
And since it's our obligation to go off topic after every 10 posts or so, here...
1888
Nov 21 2003, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 11:08 PM)
I would still like more info about how HGs got to be premium in a lot of people's minds.
Read #3...
1888
Nov 21 2003, 07:16 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 11:08 PM)
Okay, I will leave Crosby alone.
Smart.
Dr.Ordinaire
Nov 21 2003, 07:16 PM
No, you silly, I never said that someone pissed in my absinthe.
Can we go back to subject?
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 07:17 PM
That gal's quite fetching!
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 10:13 PM)
No, you silly, I never said that someone pissed in my absinthe.
Can we go back to subject?
Too late now.
Absinthe_1900
Nov 21 2003, 07:20 PM

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Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 07:21 PM
QUOTE(Dr.Ordinaire @ Nov 21 2003, 07:13 PM)
Can we go back to subject?
I don't give a shit if you want to spew at me or not. All your other targets said you were full of crap and ignore you now.
The whole premise of this thread is nonsense. Why is an absinthe that is crafted with passion for knowledge and attention to quality, better than one mass produced by corporations driven by profit? Duh!
balzdeep
Nov 21 2003, 07:22 PM
EEK! It's a man ... it's a woman ... it's made of plastic ...
OK, back on topic. I am not a huge fan of Segarra & Emile's due to their simplicity. Will I order them again though, YES. Sometimes I like simple, and they are both obviously excellent absinthes. But I also like a little more complexity, flavor, and yes, star anise as well. That's where Kubler, NS, La Fee, etc. jump in. However, out of those only Kubler is what I would call smooth, obviously due to the fact that it's distilled. That's where many/most of the HG's move in -- to fill in the gap of well-balanced, herbally complex, and flavorful distilled absinthes.
But ya think they call him McGregor the absinthe distiller? Nooo....
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 07:23 PM
Crosby
Nov 21 2003, 07:24 PM
Badger, badger, badger, mushroom, badger...
Raindog
Nov 21 2003, 07:27 PM
Absinthe_1900
Nov 21 2003, 07:27 PM
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