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BlackHat
Hey all. So my AA plants are finally flowering after going into their second year. Two weeks ago I noticed that there was a proliferation of what looks like spider mites on one of the stems. It almost looked as if ants were helping this process along (I have seen them farm aphids before, so I do not think this is uncommon). In fact, I was just in San Francisco and saw beautiful wormwood bushes growing in a Marina-area park, and they had the exact same mites! Has anyone else discovered these? Are they ever a big problem, or sould I let them live? I usually use neem oil to battle pests, but I am hesitant to do this at this point of the flowering season. Heres a shot to identify the creatures:
Off. Jack Batemaster
Who the fuck is AssHat?

Those look like some wierd aphid to me. Spray them with soapy water and watch them get torn apart from the outside. If they don't immediately die, they probably ain't aphids and I have no idea 'cept for trying some of that hippie peppermint glycerin soap xits.
Le Gimp
Safers Insecticidal Soap?

Just as well to use 1tsp of pure castille or other mild soap per quart of water and spray the little buggers. It plugs up their booklungs and they suffocate.

Die bugs! Die!

Insecticidal soap
CelticGent
i just had to look up "book lung".

how did i ever get this far in life without knowing that term?
Le Gimp
I often wonder why I remember shit like that. Learned it in high school Biology Class setting next to Lynn something or another.
Grey Boy
Did she have nice "book lungs"?
jaded prol
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CelticGent
i was in the shower this morning, and thus was not wearing my glasses.

i saw something that was black and fuzzy looking on the bottom of the tub.

i reached down and grabbed what i thought was going to be the usual furburger fixins,

but it started moving and i realized it was a big old spider.

as it startled me i opended my fingers, i really don't know who let out the bigger scream...

unlucky spider probably didn't need glasses & got a complete eyeful.
Grey Boy
I'm reporting you to PETA.
CelticGent
i'm taking you to the ASPCA
jaded prol
I could report you to P.E.T.I. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Insects) but Spiders are arachnids.
CelticGent
wow.

we got us a coupla real reporters here.

mind yer own busy-ness.

the spider was askin fer it.

it spread its legs.
and then spread its other legs
and then spread its other legs
and then spread its other legs.

the arach-don't turned into arach-DID.
TheGreenOne
Why have PETI when you can have PETM and PETL?
QUOTE
Who Speaks for the Leech?
On August 25 and 26, 2005, the Food and Drug Administration convened a meeting of its General and Plastic Surgery Devices Panel of the Medical Devices Advisory Committee. The FDA's Federal Register notice explains that the meeting agenda includes discussion and recommendations " on the classification of five preamendments medical devices: bone wax, medical maggots, medicinal leeches, tissue expander, and wound dressing with a drug."

Uhhh....maggots and leaches? Yes, gentle reader, the FDA is planning to regulate the medical use of maggots and leeches, putting these humble living creatures in the legal category of medical devices. After lengthy, in-depth research (one Google search) Winston learned that microsurgeons now often use leeches to drain excess blood during transplant or re-attachment surgery. Doctors use maggots to clean festering wounds that fail to heal (a frequent problem among diabetics). Leeches drink blood, and maggots are very good at eating dead but not living flesh. In fact, that is about all they eat.

The FDA has not regulated maggots and leeches before, and the Agency feels the time has come. The Agency's Federal Register notice requested public written comment on how best to regulate leeches and maggots. Public comment was allowed at the meeting. The Comments made and received were not available at the time Winston had to submit this column. Be assured, however, that Winston will continue to dog this emerging regulatory issue because he has a concern that has not yet been addressed by anyone.

With apologies to Dr. Seuss: who speaks for the leeches and maggots in this matter? They save human lives; yet they have no voice in the matter. They have no trade association or NGOs, and no K-Street lobbyists represent them. Are leeches and maggots to be denied the rights Winston has, thanks to organizations like PETA ? Actually, Winston's PETA friends complain bitterly to Winston that he has no rights, but at least he has someone complaining about it.

Winston hopes this column will inspire the creation of leech and maggot watchdog groups, NGOs who will tirelessly work to ensure equal rights for the lovely leech and the magnificent maggot.

Winston already has suggested acronyms for them. How about NLDC (National Leech Defense Council) or MDF (Maggot Defense Fund)? Winston prefers PETL (People for the Ethical Treatment of Leeches), and PETM (People for the Ethical Treatment of Maggots). They convey a softer image.

Winston is also working on appropriate logos, but it is hard to make leeches and maggots look cute.
Le Gimp
All your post are belong to me!
Kirk
Raised beds
baby
that's the way to go
brick it up
stick it up or even
a bored (sic) will do
pile it up though
I encourage you
My good vegetables will behave themselves this year,
because they are lined up straight
so
start now for this year
it's never too late.
jaded prol
We look forward to a good harvest.
jaded prol
A new varient -- Artemisia Hyacinthium . . .
Le Gimp
Well, that is quite pretty any way.

I have put out five sets of hyssops. They are in beds bordered by 2X10s. I have a sheet of plexiglas over them right now to make a slight greenhouse to shelter them from the weather. They survived a 26F night so far. Snow is still in the forcast.

Sunday and Monday night will be in the 20s. If they survive this they should do ok. If not, I have five more sets ready to plant.
Kirk
I've been re-arranging my garden and digging up A.a. plants.
I have about 25 full grown plants (semi dormant) that I'm throwing away.
These are large plants and could be divided into 4 or 5 each,
anyone wants them can come get them .
jaded prol
Got any A.P.?

N2herbs says it makes a good tonic . . .
Off. Jack Batemaster
I've got a dying AP plant in a copper pot right now....
jaded prol
What a coincidence!
Kirk
Put that sucker in the ground Jack.
I've got tons of A.p. but I'm too lazy to dig it up and mail it,
if you want some I'll bring it to Lautrec Fest.
Who wants what at L.F?
I dug up A.p., A.a. and I could even spare a little hyssop but I have to know who wants.
I wish Gimp or someone would come get these A.a.s though, I hate to kill them off.
jaded prol
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A.P. & Hyssop!
Off. Jack Batemaster
Can't make it, real busy...

Anyhoo, Lautrec is a dumass and a real stupid name for a hen party...
jaded prol
I'm expecting another sausagefest.





And you'll be there with fluevogs on.
Kirk
I didn't want Snakehead to go to any trouble but it sounds like he's single still,
maybe we can cook the sausage at his place?
This year I'm putting it all in a red sauce and we'll eat it on bread.
jaded prol
AAAAH!

I'm allerigic to red sauce, (though I love it).


Put a little oregano and fennel in it this time, I guess I can wipe the delicious nectar of tomato of ruefully.
Helfrich
QUOTE(BlackHat @ Aug 16 2005, 03:46 AM)
Two weeks ago I noticed that there was a proliferation of what looks like spider mites on one of the stems.  It almost looked as if ants were helping this process along (I have seen them farm aphids before, so I do not think this is uncommon).
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Wormwood oil has acaricidal properties so probably those parasites are aphids, not mites. Usually they do not look that creepy here in EuroFuckyLand. The aphids colonizing my plants appear to prefer slightly (and less slightly) toxic plants like A. a., Senecio species (ragwort) and sometimes A. vulgaris (mugwort).

They suck in more sap than they can digest. The superfluous liquid is excreted as "honeydew" which is harvested by ants. The aphids benefit from the presence of the ants because they drive away predators like ladybugs.

I wonder if the ants get to swallow the absinthine as well. Maybe the aphids have found a way to get it out without distillation.
Off. Jack Batemaster
Mebbe that's why Fakie Guy tastes like ass...production method.
jaded prol
They're still working the bugs out.
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