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Absinthe_1900
I thought 1888 & I ought to have a place just for her........discuss.
Crosby
Whatever works for you two. arcadeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.gif
Le Gimp
I knew a young lady who worked where I do, who got married before I divorced who had eyes that looked a lot like Kate's. Cute young lady, except she thought makeup should be applied like spackling.
Crosby
QUOTE(Le Gimp @ Nov 26 2003, 09:14 PM)
...she thought makeup should be applied like spackling.

Textured or smooth coat?
Absinthe_1900
Interesting body of work, her album The Dreaming is generally considered to be her best album. Hounds of Love, her most accessable.
her first two albums, The Kick inside & Lionheart, were created when she was still a teenager, and showed a talent beyond her years.
By her third album Never for Ever, she took control of her own production, image, and business, and was able to go her own way, which is not easily done in the music business.

Fascinating person.
Absinthe_1900
QUOTE(Crosby @ Nov 26 2003, 11:12 PM)
Whatever works for you two. arcadeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.gif

Heh-heh! DG.gif laugher.gif
1888
True... but now let's get down to the important suff... PICS!!!


Well, we could discuss the lack of new material...





...nah.
1888
OK 1900, let's do our best to convert these fine folks... k?
Absinthe_1900
I could scan the Bootleg album with the lookalike topless photos.............. DG.gif
1888
...Don't think I've seen that one!

For those of you unfamiliar, take a gander at these lyrics from the song 'The Sensual World':

"Mmh, yes,

Then I'd taken the kiss of seedcake back from his mouth
Going deep South, go down, mmh, yes,
Took six big wheels and rolled our bodies
Off of Howth Head and into the flesh, mmh, yes,

He said I was a flower of the mountain, yes,
But now I've powers o'er a woman's body, yes.

Stepping out of the page into the sensual world.
Stepping out...

To where the water and the earth caress
And the down of a peach says mmh, yes,
Do I look for those millionaires
Like a Machiavellian girl would
When I could wear a sunset? mmh, yes,

And how we'd wished to live in the sensual world
You don't need words--just one kiss, then another.

Stepping out of the page into the sensual world
Stepping out, off the page, into the sensual world.

And then our arrows of desire rewrite the speech, mmh, yes,
And then he whispered would I, mmh, yes,
Be safe, mmh, yes, from mountain flowers?
And at first with the charm around him, mmh, yes,
He loosened it so if it slipped between my breasts
He'd rescue it, mmh, yes,
And his spark took life in my hand and, mmh, yes,
I said, mmh, yes,
But not yet, mmh, yes,
Mmh, yes."


Drink La Fee (or whatever else that gives you the 'warm' secondaries) and listen to this song...
Absinthe_1900
The Brit. version of Penthouse ran some photos, back when Kate first launched, they tried to say the were her, but ended up having to retract that.
Back in the 80's there was a bootleg record that put the photos on the cover.
They are not really that great, and the record was poor quality.

Did you ever buy the Hammersmith video that had the CD with it?
1888
I have the video but w/o the cd...
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Absinthe_1900
Very rare original Cloudbusting CD (promo only)
1888
Damn! Don't have that one either...
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Absinthe_1900
On the Sensual World, Kate had originally wanted to do Molly Bloom (and her soliloquy) literally coming out of the page on video, but couldn't get permission from James Joyce's estate.
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Absinthe_1900
I got the Cloudbusting CD back in 1987, it's a very hard to find item since so few were pressed.

I have a few marble wax Hounds of Love Lp's, including one promo version.
I also have The Single File Laser Disc (Japanese pressing)
Absinthe_1900
All of her Cd's are to be remastered, and the non album B sides are to be added to each new CD. Hounds of Love had been redone, but I haven't seen the others yet.
1888
I have the box set, just about everything that came out from Red Shoes... the original US CD's of her albums, some UK imports, 2 or 3 books and 3 or 4 videos.

I also have a picture disk 45 set... and some other things I can't think of at the moment.

I've had one too many drinks of Felix tonight so I can't be more precise... sorry.

I sure like the pictures, though!
1888
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 02:23 AM)
I have a few marble wax Hounds of Love Lp's

I have the marble cassette... roflmao.gif

Seriously.
Absinthe_1900
My best find was The Single File, 1983 box set of 45's, I picked one up for six bucks in 1984, .....I ran like a theif from that used record store when I bought it.
Absinthe_1900
QUOTE(1888 @ Nov 27 2003, 12:32 AM)
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 02:23 AM)
I have a few marble wax Hounds of Love Lp's

I have the marble cassette... roflmao.gif

Seriously.

The Marble casette is quite rare too.
I'd say it's rarer than the wax, since casettes don't survive well.
Absinthe_1900
Do you have the Kathy demos? (teenage Kate piano demos)
Absinthe_1900
Also the reissued Brazil Soundtrack has the never before issued Kate vocals on the theme song.
Aion
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 12:24 AM)
Interesting body of work, her album The Dreaming is generally considered to be her best album. Hounds of Love, her most accessable.
her first two albums, The Kick inside & Lionheart, were created when she was still a teenager, and showed a talent beyond her years.
By her third album Never for Ever, she took control of her own production, image, and business, and was able to go her own way, which is not easily done in the music business.

Fascinating person.

"The Dreaming" is my favourite KB album too, it is
quite a surprise to hear that it is generally considered
to be her best work.

I would not say "Hounds of Love" is her most accessible
work, I´d rather vote for "Never for Ever".
Do I remember correctly that "Running up that Hill" was
#1 in the charts? Would be impossible today. Sad times!

I do like "Lionheart" very much. Still a good kept secret.
Nobody I know knows this album.

If you listen to the music that if performed by 16-18 years
old girls today, you are not able to believe that an album
like "The kick inside" is reality. Sad, sad times!
The only breathtaking CD performed by a less than 20 years old
girl within the last 10 years was Fiona Apple´s "Tidal" imho.

Interestingly enough I´ve never cared about the fact that
Kate is a beautiful woman.
It was always her musical talent I admired.
Absinthe_1900
Even more amazing her Tour of life in '79.
the whole show was amazing!, all the dance and production was her idea.
It's a shame the performance wasn't released in it's two hour form.
Also, later performers owe her a debt from her launching the wirless mike.

The Kick Inside & Lionheart are astonishing in light of her age (the songs go back even further) .
Absinthe_1900
The Kathy Demos give an interesting glimpse in her early writing.
Apparently all her early home demos, got out several years ago, and have been widely bootlegged, if you haven't had a chance to listen to them, try hunting them down, as they are well worth hearing.
Aion
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Absinthe_1900
Babooooooooshka!

There is a funny Brit TV performance of Babooshka,( this was pre-Never for Ever) where Kate is on a TV talk show, and the old Dr. Hook band was there.
After her number, Kate sat down for the interview, and Dr, Hook kept hitting on her. After a few tries, he finally said "Not a chance I guess" Her look at him was priceless. laugher.gif
Aion
Is there / was there ever a DVD with
any of her live performances or video-clips?
Absinthe_1900
Commercial video:

Kate Bush Live at the Hammersith 1979 (approx one hour of the Tour of Life show)

Kate Bush The Whole Story (selected videos up to 1986)

The Sensual World (video & interviews for the album)

The Line The Cross and The Curve (an adaptation of The Red Shoes, story)

***The Single File Videos***** (not released in the USA, I have the Japanese Lase)

***The Hair of The Hound*** (Hounds of Love videos), released on The Whole Story in the USA.

Love Hounds Video Collection (Bootlegs of TV and misc performances and interviews), try a large record show or eBay, nice set of stuff.

As far as I know nothing on DVD, they were released on Laser Disc and video tape, back then (94 was the last release)........Check Movies Unlimited, or eBay, and a good video shop might have some old tapes around.

If I ever get around to getting a DVD burner, I need to transfer all my laser Discs to DVD. (more damn stuff to get)

Now if they could just get her out of the studio, it's almost 10 years.............. nopity.gif
Aion
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 05:13 AM)
As far as I know nothing on DVD, ....

Now, that is what I expected.

A lot of people are waiting for new material.
We all know, there is no new material.

This would be the time to sell old and rare material
on the new mediums (DVD, SACD).

Actually, I don´t need the SACD.
I don´t need the multichannel option.
But some DVD´s of concerts / clips would be
really worth spending some money.

I think there will be no remastered CD editions,
when SACD´s with a remastered CD-layer can be
sold for a 50-100% higher price.
lysistrata
I have no Kate Porn but I can post a review I wrote for Amazon:

Hounds of Love ~ Kate Bush List Price: $11.98
Buy new: $10.99
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4 of 5 people found the following review helpful:
Amazing use of technology... July 5, 2000
When Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love" was released in the US in 1985, there really had never been anything like it before. Altho techno-pop (Thompson Twins, Depeche Mode, Thomas Dolby et al) was popular, these bands all were using synthesizers with only a few oscillators so that the sound was rather thin. On "Hounds of Love" Bush was one of the first pop artists to tackle the Fairlight synthesizer which was one of the first "sampling" synths, not to mention the first truly polyphonic. It was was also a humongous monster, each was custom made, & they cost an arm & a leg!

Here we are 15 years later, sampling & digital technology has rendered the Fairlight a dinosaur, so how does "Hounds of Love" hold up? WONDERFULLY! The songs are excellent, the use of rhythms on "Big Sky" incredible & Dave Gilmour (Pink Floyd) contributes some burning guitar. This is an album that repays repeat listening; there is always something new to hear in the multi-textural instrumentations. Personally, I have never been without a copy of this album since it first came out, & I recommend you follow my example!

I have many more Amazon reviews, if you're interested.
Amazon.com Reviews
1888
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 02:38 AM)
Do you have the Kathy demos? (teenage Kate piano demos)

I have a bad cassette copy of that.
1888
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Nov 27 2003, 02:41 AM)
Also the reissued Brazil Soundtrack has the never before issued Kate vocals on the theme song.

I didn't know they reissued that... I have the original. Another one I'll have to find!
Aion
QUOTE(lysistrata @ Nov 27 2003, 11:05 AM)
all were using synthesizers with only a few oscillators so that the sound was rather thin ....
....Fairlight synthesizer which was one of the first "sampling" synths, not to mention the first truly polyphonic.

Sorry, that´s bullshit, an old Moog modular synth (with patch cord)
and even the monophone Minimoog had a by far fuller sound
than the Fairlight, which was an 8-bit(!!!) unit, sounding
like an old telephone. ARP, Roland, EMS, Oberheim,
Korg, Sequential Circuits, everything available at that time
sounded better.
Not to mention the (also digitally working) PPG´s, the
Crumar GDS (that was used on Klaus Schulze´s "Dig It",
and the Synclavier.

The Fairlight was, as far as I know, first used by the Austrian
composers Bognermayr & Zuschrader for their
"Erdenklang - Sinfonie" in 1979-1980, one year later
Jean Michel Jarre used in on "Magnetic Field".

A good example (almost everybody knows) for the
"Fairlight-sound" is also Jan Hammer´s "Miami Vice theme",
thin, dirty, hissing, pale.

Btw., nobody uses a Fairlight today, but modular, patch wired,
filling a whole room, systems are still being made.
And still offer the ultimate creativity in sound design.

Sorry to have spoiled this thread with my rant!
Miss_Liquor
Aaiiieeeeeeeeeeee!

I love Kate.

I used to weep on a grassy hillock by a creek to "Lionheart" when I was 15.

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greeneyes
One of my all-time favorite tunes is "All We Ever Look For." If I recall correctly, she writes (or wrote) a great deal of her material. Does anyone know, off hand, whether she wrote this one? I'm just curious.
Absinthe_1900
QUOTE(greeneyes @ Nov 28 2003, 03:23 PM)
One of my all-time favorite tunes is "All We Ever Look For." If I recall correctly, she writes (or wrote) a great deal of her material. Does anyone know, off hand, whether she wrote this one? I'm just curious.

Kate writes all of her material, there are a few covers she has done over ther years, but they appear as singles.
Kate did write All We Ever Look for.
Absinthe_1900
Interesting News Item:

28 November 2003

Outkast hip-hop star Big Boi has a surprising musical hero - eccentric British
singer Kate Bush. The ‘Miss Jackson’ rapper - real name Antwan Patton -
credits his teenage musical development to Bush, and he's still so infatuated
with the reclusive star he wants to track her down and get her to produce songs
for his duo's next album. He says, "My uncle introduced me to Kate Bush's music
when I was about 14 years old, and that s*** opened my mind up. The first one I
got was ‘The Kick Inside’, then I bought ‘The Hounds Of Love’, then the
‘The Sensual World’. "She was so bugged out man! But I felt what she was
talking about in the songs. ‘Mother Stands For Comfort’, ‘Running Up That
Hill’. My uncle would explain what the songs stood for. Like ‘The Man With
The Child In His Eyes’ and all that s***. "I thought, 'Wow! She's so f***ing
deep! I was infatuated with her, still am. I gotta track her down! I just found
out that she was producing all that s*** herself! She's so f***ing dope and so
underrated and off the radar. So hopefully on the next record you're going hear
Outkast and Kate Bush do at least two or three songs." (WENN)
1888
That is so weird... blink.gif

What a strange connection!
Absinthe_1900
Interesting item,
Kate has worked with several people over the years, some of her guest appearances on other albums are as interesting as her own material.

But I'd rather see her finish her own album, before seeing her work with some else.
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