Look at that picture, look good and hard,
is that person on alcohol or a crutch?
Full Version: They Say the Key to Quitting Smoking...
It ain't reality,
hence the xit-eating grin.
hence the xit-eating grin.
Reality's an illusion, darlin'.
Just make it up as you go along.
I think Grey is minty.
I think Gey is squinty.
I read a site talking about using odd things for stuff and one says take .5tsp rochelle salt (whatever that is...didn't bother to look it up) and .5tsp cream of tartar at breakfast and chew ginsing root a lot and swallow the juice to quit smoking.
Never tried it.
I can't see using the gum because you're still getting nicotine and I think it's expensive for something that might not work when you can just buy a pack of cigarettes, but the idea is to give you nicotine while you get used to not puffing and holding a cigarette, but I have heard people say they smoked while chewing the gum and I personally wouldn't want to run the risk of getting addicted to the gum for a short period of time and having to buy a lot of it. However, it may work wonders for some people.
I think the bottom line is that you have to want to quit and just stop.
The key is not resuming.
I think the incentive thing is a good idea. There's a lot of information on the web about the poisons in cigarettes. For anyone's information, there is acetone in cigarettes and even more poisonous toluene...just to mention two.
Accessing your diminished vital capacity is a good idea as well.
I used Damiana mixed with other herbs in an herbal smoke....which might sound counter productive but the idea is that you are fiending for a cigarette...you are having withdrawels...your chest may actually hurt when quitting smoking because it can have a strange effect on nerves and tissues which is how it so easily causes the body to behave in a way somewhat opposite of what it's supposed and give you cancer. You start growing abnormal cells on top of the damage done. It's not just COPD or fibrosis from the smoke. Your body will change and grow according to mutegen reaction. Your body has learned that it's poison is it's pain reliever....so in my opinion if you have tried to quit smoking and failed then perhaps you experienced withdrawels too serious to be able to consider your incentives...rather than just getting bored and lighting up or just wanting the taste.
You may need another 'stimulant' or painkiller....just to keep the tightness in your chest from driving you crazy or something pleasant to help you sleep as it can cause ridiculous insomnia and if you drink or whatever you might want to smoke even more of course.....so smoke something like a mix of herbs just to have something to hold and smoke on. I guess if you had enough weed and were willing to try, some people who have wanted to stop smoking were able to stop that way but if you smoke that then you are smoking it to get stoned and you should have something on hand for the sole purpose of when you are fiending for a cigarette.
I wouldn't think that everyone would like the same tastes but I became somewhat partial to the taste of the mix I have which contains about a half of a dozen herbs and some herbal resin to make it richer because the taste of regular herbs is not going to come close to a cigarette so anyone who tries it should go ahead and accept that. It doesn't have the addictive componants that cigarettes have and this is the only thing that makes it ok to smoke because you are just not going to smoke that many....period. You're not going to get addicted to it. That's the thing....but it's something to smoke just for the hell of smoking something with coffee or when you get buzzed and just can't take it anymore and have to smoke something. You'll smoke it and you'll smell the strong scent on your hands and to me, it doesn't smell bad but it's very strong and can be lingering so I wouldn't do it in public because everyone will know it's not a cigarette. You'll think "well, this doesn't taste anything like a cigarette" but you may very well sit there and smoke the whole thing just to have something to do and I personally like the taste, but not enough to do the damage to my lungs that anything you smoke will do on a daily basis. If you get something harsh and hard to smoke, try something else. I quit the Tuesday before thankgiving of last year and have smoked maybe 7 or 8 of these cigarettes when I was struggling and I still have some on hand. Smoke anything but a cigarette (within reason) NOT CLOVES!!!!
Certain herbs, like damiana, will have a relaxing effect although it's VERY subtle. It won't rush to you like nicotine does but it can, after a few minutes, curb some of that anxiousness or gitteriness.
When you are done, put it out and forget about smoking a cigarette. It should be easier after smoking it. It is for me. Very subtle, comes on slow but it does have an effect.
Some may say "well, if I smoke this shit I might as well smoke cigarettes"
No.
It's not good for you, but it's not addictive.
Cloves can make your lungs very sore so I wouldn't recommend them unless you are trying to break up congestion and a lot of clove cigarettes have tobacco in them.
I would consider using other stimulants as well, within reason because smoking IS extremely bad for you. The majority of smokers do not feel most negative effects of smoking untill extensive damage is done so do something less deadly to feel good in place of it....like using kratom to wein off narcotics. You just have to find something that works and don't forget that cigarette companies are making shitloads of money off of one of the biggest killers of our time and stuff like absinthe is illegal in some places. It shows how much health is really a concern for some.
I would also experiment with other rich tastes and scents as in calming candles or oils or incense or uncommon candies and drinks to try to pacify and entertain those senses and simply give you some "background" thing to do while, say, listening to music intently or watching a movie.
I used to like play around with these little charcoal brickettes and different types of solid incense. You had to light the charcoal on top of sand in an ashtray and drop the little pieces on them and the scents would change during the process of it's burning. It's just something to do when you are somewhat idle and don't feel like making something or doing work or playing an instrument....set something on fire. I find burning leaves pretty relaxing as well.
The thread starter mentioned excercise and I don't remember if there was a link and was a prelude to something else but it actually makes a lot of sense because when you excercize you will appreciate the stimulating feeling of clean air in your lungs more after you quit smoking. Buy an air filter...open a window....feel the clean air (or somewhat clean air) as opposed to cigarette smoke. I realized that my senses have become more sensitive and even when there are no smells in a room I can tell if there is low oxygen or dirty air because I get a little antsy but my lungs feel thick and tough and I'm often short of breathe and struggling to recover.....or I could just smoke a cigarette and because of the nature of nicotine I would feel better and think nothing was wrong at all but I made a vow and that is a very important part of it.
Quitting smoking was not easy.
I smoked 17 years and enjoyed it very much. It was the better half of my coffee, beer or weed. It was my reward for almost every big task I finished. It was my desert and my midnight snack that helped tuck me into bed.
The last time was my third attempt and I really don't think I'm going to start smoking again this because my health is now more at risk. I will try almost anything to avoid it and many of these things have helped.
Never tried it.
I can't see using the gum because you're still getting nicotine and I think it's expensive for something that might not work when you can just buy a pack of cigarettes, but the idea is to give you nicotine while you get used to not puffing and holding a cigarette, but I have heard people say they smoked while chewing the gum and I personally wouldn't want to run the risk of getting addicted to the gum for a short period of time and having to buy a lot of it. However, it may work wonders for some people.
I think the bottom line is that you have to want to quit and just stop.
The key is not resuming.
I think the incentive thing is a good idea. There's a lot of information on the web about the poisons in cigarettes. For anyone's information, there is acetone in cigarettes and even more poisonous toluene...just to mention two.
Accessing your diminished vital capacity is a good idea as well.
I used Damiana mixed with other herbs in an herbal smoke....which might sound counter productive but the idea is that you are fiending for a cigarette...you are having withdrawels...your chest may actually hurt when quitting smoking because it can have a strange effect on nerves and tissues which is how it so easily causes the body to behave in a way somewhat opposite of what it's supposed and give you cancer. You start growing abnormal cells on top of the damage done. It's not just COPD or fibrosis from the smoke. Your body will change and grow according to mutegen reaction. Your body has learned that it's poison is it's pain reliever....so in my opinion if you have tried to quit smoking and failed then perhaps you experienced withdrawels too serious to be able to consider your incentives...rather than just getting bored and lighting up or just wanting the taste.
You may need another 'stimulant' or painkiller....just to keep the tightness in your chest from driving you crazy or something pleasant to help you sleep as it can cause ridiculous insomnia and if you drink or whatever you might want to smoke even more of course.....so smoke something like a mix of herbs just to have something to hold and smoke on. I guess if you had enough weed and were willing to try, some people who have wanted to stop smoking were able to stop that way but if you smoke that then you are smoking it to get stoned and you should have something on hand for the sole purpose of when you are fiending for a cigarette.
I wouldn't think that everyone would like the same tastes but I became somewhat partial to the taste of the mix I have which contains about a half of a dozen herbs and some herbal resin to make it richer because the taste of regular herbs is not going to come close to a cigarette so anyone who tries it should go ahead and accept that. It doesn't have the addictive componants that cigarettes have and this is the only thing that makes it ok to smoke because you are just not going to smoke that many....period. You're not going to get addicted to it. That's the thing....but it's something to smoke just for the hell of smoking something with coffee or when you get buzzed and just can't take it anymore and have to smoke something. You'll smoke it and you'll smell the strong scent on your hands and to me, it doesn't smell bad but it's very strong and can be lingering so I wouldn't do it in public because everyone will know it's not a cigarette. You'll think "well, this doesn't taste anything like a cigarette" but you may very well sit there and smoke the whole thing just to have something to do and I personally like the taste, but not enough to do the damage to my lungs that anything you smoke will do on a daily basis. If you get something harsh and hard to smoke, try something else. I quit the Tuesday before thankgiving of last year and have smoked maybe 7 or 8 of these cigarettes when I was struggling and I still have some on hand. Smoke anything but a cigarette (within reason) NOT CLOVES!!!!
Certain herbs, like damiana, will have a relaxing effect although it's VERY subtle. It won't rush to you like nicotine does but it can, after a few minutes, curb some of that anxiousness or gitteriness.
When you are done, put it out and forget about smoking a cigarette. It should be easier after smoking it. It is for me. Very subtle, comes on slow but it does have an effect.
Some may say "well, if I smoke this shit I might as well smoke cigarettes"
No.
It's not good for you, but it's not addictive.
Cloves can make your lungs very sore so I wouldn't recommend them unless you are trying to break up congestion and a lot of clove cigarettes have tobacco in them.
I would consider using other stimulants as well, within reason because smoking IS extremely bad for you. The majority of smokers do not feel most negative effects of smoking untill extensive damage is done so do something less deadly to feel good in place of it....like using kratom to wein off narcotics. You just have to find something that works and don't forget that cigarette companies are making shitloads of money off of one of the biggest killers of our time and stuff like absinthe is illegal in some places. It shows how much health is really a concern for some.
I would also experiment with other rich tastes and scents as in calming candles or oils or incense or uncommon candies and drinks to try to pacify and entertain those senses and simply give you some "background" thing to do while, say, listening to music intently or watching a movie.
I used to like play around with these little charcoal brickettes and different types of solid incense. You had to light the charcoal on top of sand in an ashtray and drop the little pieces on them and the scents would change during the process of it's burning. It's just something to do when you are somewhat idle and don't feel like making something or doing work or playing an instrument....set something on fire. I find burning leaves pretty relaxing as well.
The thread starter mentioned excercise and I don't remember if there was a link and was a prelude to something else but it actually makes a lot of sense because when you excercize you will appreciate the stimulating feeling of clean air in your lungs more after you quit smoking. Buy an air filter...open a window....feel the clean air (or somewhat clean air) as opposed to cigarette smoke. I realized that my senses have become more sensitive and even when there are no smells in a room I can tell if there is low oxygen or dirty air because I get a little antsy but my lungs feel thick and tough and I'm often short of breathe and struggling to recover.....or I could just smoke a cigarette and because of the nature of nicotine I would feel better and think nothing was wrong at all but I made a vow and that is a very important part of it.
Quitting smoking was not easy.
I smoked 17 years and enjoyed it very much. It was the better half of my coffee, beer or weed. It was my reward for almost every big task I finished. It was my desert and my midnight snack that helped tuck me into bed.
The last time was my third attempt and I really don't think I'm going to start smoking again this because my health is now more at risk. I will try almost anything to avoid it and many of these things have helped.
April fool?
There were way too many words in that post.
Oh, my stars, yes.
QUOTE(N2Herbs @ Apr 1 2006, 10:22 PM)
I would consider using other stimulants as well,
Looks like you're using too many already.
I didn't read any of that. How 'bout some pictionary instead?
QUOTE(A.B. Normal @ Mar 26 2006, 08:42 PM)
I wonder if I could type with my breasts.
c nbm jmn
Not so much...
c nbm jmn
Not so much...
You're my hero Abby.
Man, are you fucked!
QUOTE(N2Herbs @ Apr 2 2006, 05:22 AM)
Quitting smoking was not easy.
Nor was reading your post. Watch out for the penguin: he eats, shoots and leaves.
QUOTE(N2Herbs @ Apr 1 2006, 11:22 PM)
so do something less deadly to feel good in place of it....like using kratom to wein off narcotics.
If you'll excuse me now, I'm going to go sniff some glue.
Well, unless you use glue that contains the same crap that's in cigarettes which is quite possible unless it's Elmers glue-all then it probably won't do you any good.
As for the kratom.....Kratom will give a person a quite nice little high....well, actually I wouldn't call it a high. It's a stimulant of some sort....weird stuff...hard to explain. You feel it in your guts....like a painkiller that stays in your digestive track without excessively getting into your blood stream to affect more distant parts. Problems is when you come down you might get a stomach ache because the diverticulum does not like fine ground kratom if you eat it. I tried to incorperate it into a drink because it IS somewhat of an aphrodisiac but the alcohol killed it. I guess kratom tea is best, but I still want to work with it because the plain tea tastes like shit.
In some places it used to wean a person off narcotics because although it is habit forming it is less addictive and less harmful. In some places it is as illegal as narcotics but in the US it is very legal.
Not something I'd want to do everyday but it might be fun with a partner....more fun than something that destroys heart tissue on contact like coke and more stimulating than cigarettes and less dangerous if you are bored and looking for kicks. It's a leaf from a tree. It makes you feel all squishy inside. Interesting stuff for something legal.
Excuse me, I accidentally had more than a couple of drinks today....still haven't smoked a cigarette though and feeling no need to breathe that nasty shit into my lungs.
Tobacco companies are the enemy.
Tobacco companies are trying to kill you before you have a chance to sue them.
As for the kratom.....Kratom will give a person a quite nice little high....well, actually I wouldn't call it a high. It's a stimulant of some sort....weird stuff...hard to explain. You feel it in your guts....like a painkiller that stays in your digestive track without excessively getting into your blood stream to affect more distant parts. Problems is when you come down you might get a stomach ache because the diverticulum does not like fine ground kratom if you eat it. I tried to incorperate it into a drink because it IS somewhat of an aphrodisiac but the alcohol killed it. I guess kratom tea is best, but I still want to work with it because the plain tea tastes like shit.
In some places it used to wean a person off narcotics because although it is habit forming it is less addictive and less harmful. In some places it is as illegal as narcotics but in the US it is very legal.
Not something I'd want to do everyday but it might be fun with a partner....more fun than something that destroys heart tissue on contact like coke and more stimulating than cigarettes and less dangerous if you are bored and looking for kicks. It's a leaf from a tree. It makes you feel all squishy inside. Interesting stuff for something legal.
Excuse me, I accidentally had more than a couple of drinks today....still haven't smoked a cigarette though and feeling no need to breathe that nasty shit into my lungs.
Tobacco companies are the enemy.
Tobacco companies are trying to kill you before you have a chance to sue them.
damn you are long winded, shut up
Can the book n2.
We're just a buncha drunks here.
Can someone please
direct new age Bucky to an herb forum?
Can someone please
direct new age Bucky to an herb forum?
QUOTE(BaMF @ Apr 3 2006, 07:38 PM)
damn you are long winded, shut up
Telling me to shut up is not a very good way to get me to shut up.
square.
Satyr?
Grate.
I was feeling a little nostalgic, so I went back and reread that beating.
Good times.
Good times.
QUOTE(kijibwa @ Apr 3 2006, 07:51 PM)
We're just a buncha drunks here.
Can someone please
direct new age Bucky to an herb forum?
Can someone please
direct new age Bucky to an herb forum?
I can direct myself to an herb forum if I so chose to go to one.
I tell people how I stopped smoking because I love mankind that much, really.
Actually the only reason I continued to read this forum and came across this thread is because I think "assbath" is a funny word and I read a thread where people were talking shit about Manson and it made me happy.
And now I'm curious...
I'm curious because a bunch of people are on an absinthe forum talking about a whole bunch of other shit as well as absinthe albeit begrudgingly much of the time and I can't help but to wonder why you guys didn't just make this a private forum. Wouldn't that have been the "logical" thing to do?
Or is it because of your high profile jobs that you have to come here under screen names to talk about how you like to fuck off in your spare time with your favorite drink and to try to attract women?
That's it isn't it?
Don't jump to conclusions now.....I'm in no way electing myself because I've seen nair damn one of ya but I had to try and find out.
This forum is a creature of curiousity...you know it....don't deny it....I'd get used to it if I were you.
Now....I consider myself a pretty down to earth, logical, friendly type person and I'm just being honest.....I don't know you people well enough to want to be your friend.....certainly not with the general attitude I observe and trust me when I tell you that I am really not going to become overly concerned with the things you say over the internet because quite frankly, that would be stupid unless we did actually know each other or something.
I still haven't quite got it figured out and perhaps I won't and hopefully the world won't come to an end because of it but seriously.....if you don't want people coming in here and typing on your forum, and I've seen how it doesn't make a fuck one way or another what they say, why don't you just make it private?
It'll keep that paranoia I've seen at bay;)
...unless you are trying to catch women.
ha.
cute.
and to Kirk......I'm sorry, I have no idea what you're trying to say there.
OOOH....wait...I get it.
Can the book END TOO?
clever
Jeez, you guys have problems if that's all you have to complain about.
Can the book END TOO?
clever
Jeez, you guys have problems if that's all you have to complain about.
QUOTE(N2Herbs @ Apr 3 2006, 06:25 PM)
OOOH....wait...I get it.
Can the book END TOO?
clever
Jeez, you guys have problems if that's all you have to complain about.
Can the book END TOO?
clever
Jeez, you guys have problems if that's all you have to complain about.
That post was almost short enought o read.
I’ll try to explain.
In as few words as possible, to serve as an example.
Many of us have met in person.
So we have a way about us.
And not because we live close, but because we fly/drive all over the place to meet one another.
But it’s a public forum.
We get new members all the time.
I was new once.
People who tend to post here a lot have been through unspeakable beatings or, worse yet, chat room sessions with the ex-Mayor.
We have something here we call TONE.
You either get it or you don’t.
Admittedly, for an armchair anthropologist, this is an interesting little spot on the Net, though.
In as few words as possible, to serve as an example.
Many of us have met in person.
So we have a way about us.
And not because we live close, but because we fly/drive all over the place to meet one another.
But it’s a public forum.
We get new members all the time.
I was new once.
People who tend to post here a lot have been through unspeakable beatings or, worse yet, chat room sessions with the ex-Mayor.
We have something here we call TONE.
You either get it or you don’t.
Admittedly, for an armchair anthropologist, this is an interesting little spot on the Net, though.
I see that you know each other, that's clear.
You fly/drive all over the place and drink lots of expensive absinthe, gotcha.
You were new once.....if you say so.
People who post here a lot have been through unspeakable beatings or worse....I can't say I've ever met a person so desperate for conversation but for the sake of argument and since you want me to believe this, I'll buy it.
TONE......okay, you got me on that one. I have no idea what you are talking about.
You'd probably be better off to have me banned now but if you don't I will promise to be quiet as a mouse while I lurk because I know that you are going to prove to me that this is a place of a variety of people and there is a reason that this place is not private and you guys are actually more friendly then you let on and are quite capable of making new friends. I will sit back and watch and not say a word.
...but I also like reading the troll posts.
Unless somebody wants to talk about jumping out of airplanes.
Our resident jumper-outta-planes is MIA.
And since our old FAQ was burned down a while back, I'll let you know that we generally don't quote the post directly above. We're all smart people (except CG) so we can follow the conversation.
And I still do consider myself a newbie compared to most of these people.
I've only been here a little over two years. That's nothing here.
And we don't ban people, as a general rule.
And since our old FAQ was burned down a while back, I'll let you know that we generally don't quote the post directly above. We're all smart people (except CG) so we can follow the conversation.
And I still do consider myself a newbie compared to most of these people.
I've only been here a little over two years. That's nothing here.
And we don't ban people, as a general rule.
ah...This forum is not as fast paced as some other forums and it's a habit to quote all posts......in case someone gets a post in ahead of yours.
I never thought to gauge intelligence by it.
LOL...Not to mention the fact that you have to unquote it
I never thought to gauge intelligence by it.
LOL...Not to mention the fact that you have to unquote it
Yeah, we're not one of those 10,000 member strong forums.
If someone beats you to the punch, you can always edit.
Oh, and we don't ever use "LOL."
We really need to re-vamp the FAQ.
I'll take on that responsibility once I'm sober again.
If someone beats you to the punch, you can always edit.
Oh, and we don't ever use "LOL."
We really need to re-vamp the FAQ.
I'll take on that responsibility once I'm sober again.
oh....I guess it's a good thing I'm not one of y'all.......LOL;)
We have ways of making our own fun. 
Ok.....Now I'm really freaked out.
I don't know if it's the picture or the fact that you had the picture on hand but I'm not going to ask. It's your business.
I don't know if it's the picture or the fact that you had the picture on hand but I'm not going to ask. It's your business.
LOL
It's like providing your own laugh track,
if you need to do that it ain't funny.
You have now quoted the post above yours too many times to count.
The fact that you're not banned is a pathetic indictment on this forum.
I'm saddened.
It's like providing your own laugh track,
if you need to do that it ain't funny.
You have now quoted the post above yours too many times to count.
The fact that you're not banned is a pathetic indictment on this forum.
I'm saddened.
Well, sometimes I like to indicate that I'm laughing at others.....as far as quoting....I actually unquoted that last post because I don't like quoting pictures. That's something I rarely do even on higher traffic forums. The fact that it still quoted it is more likely the pathetic indictment on this forum.
We could always talk about early cyclic pitch systems in early rotorcraft, or you could just lighten up and not be so tight assed.
QUOTE(A.B. Normal @ Apr 3 2006, 07:06 PM)
And since our old FAQ was burned down a while back...
What's the point?
No one P'sTFA anyhow.
And fook banning.
I smell blood.
Agreed, this forum is pathetic,
so why the need to be?
so why the need to be?
QUOTE(Absinthe_1900 @ Apr 3 2006, 10:34 PM)
We could always talk about early cyclic pitch systems in early rotorcraft, or you could just lighten up and not be so tight assed.
I like being tight assed...
and I have no blood.
QUOTE(Grey Boy @ Apr 3 2006, 10:35 PM)
Agreed, this forum is pathetic,
so why the need to be?
so why the need to be?
Good question.
It's viewed as a conversation here,
you don't repeat the previous statement at a bar do you?
Even when conversations overlap.
example, I edit this post, wee.
you don't repeat the previous statement at a bar do you?
Even when conversations overlap.
example, I edit this post, wee.
QUOTE(Grey Boy @ Apr 3 2006, 10:37 PM)
It's viewed as a conversation here,
you don't repeat the previous statement at a bar do you?
Even when conversations overlap.
you don't repeat the previous statement at a bar do you?
Even when conversations overlap.
you just did.
See above.
before you edited it.
QUOTE(Grey Boy @ Apr 3 2006, 10:39 PM)
See above.
Oh, I see alright.
Good, now shut up.
Or add something, this is boring.
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