I knew Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthed would catch me on a couple of these. He and I are on polar opposites of both wings of the political spectrum. It's cool. I like talking with ya, Jade- the only REAL Burnt™ absinthed!

As for the movement thing, most (and I won't go and find a link to back myself up, because that would be veering towards 'really giving a damn') of the protesters at things like the WTO, NAFTA, Republican and Democratic conventions, etc are typically. . .

Spoiled, upper-middle class to wealthy, bourgeois white people who, because they have lived the life of ultimate privledge, feel guilty and hence have to 'do something' to wash away their (perceived) sins. In the end, since they have never suffered as a result of whatever it is they are protesting, they haven't a clue how to resolve the problem. They just cause a big fuss, and inconvinence the locals.

You ever go to the Haight/Ashbury part of San Fran? I have. I have never seen such hypocritical 'guilty excess' in my life. The most liberally-minded part of the country I can think of, and yet rich beyond belief! Prols my ass! A mercedes in every driveway, and a mexican nanny in every home.

Lars, I would direct you to the cover story of the New York Times Magazine of several weeks ago to clear up some of your misconceptions. The story was chiefly about one of the organizers of the current protest movement. She might be the type of person you're describing. But many of the protestors at the recent meetings in Mexico were not. In fact, the most militant and successful of those were a group of rice farmers from South Korea, who had been driven to the brink of disaster by low crop prices, largely brought on by grain subsidies in the west. There were also a fair number of Mexican poor, who have had their livlihoods directly impacted by NAFTA and the current free-trade agenda coming out of Washington.

One of my pet peeves is people who make sweping generalizations without doing their homework first.

Humor, Baa Baa Doc. Go ahead catch and tie me up! I love a great challenge! I can be such a naughty monkey.

Hey Lars, I think we can disagree and still drink together too

As for you observation, it probably depends on the issue. The animal rights crowd may be mostly middle and upper class but on bread and butter issues from the anti-war folks to those defending thier wages and objecting to NAFTA and corporate globalization, most of the protesters are from the working class just like the rest of us. Though that covers a broad spectrum it includes the vast majority. Many have realized that our fates and interests are intertwined. Also, most of us would rather be home doing something more enjoyable than standing on a corner in the cold with a sign but we know that if we don't speak up for ourselves, no one else will.

I can't believe that you mentioned the "nucular" thing. That was one of the first things that I thought of. I'm not even sure that I'd call it a pet peeve though. It just amazes me that nobody bothers to tell the emperor about his lack of clothes. Or Bush is simply arrogant enough to believe that he can say whatever he wants since he's the one with his finger on the "nucular" button.


Regarding the language issue, I don't think that everyone should be obligated to learn English before moving to the US (or wherever). Why can't many people who have lived here for decades speak the language? At work, maybe 1% of my clients have lived here for years and can't speak the language. It doesn't bother me too much because of the infrequent occurrences but those people must have problems everywhere they go. Hospitals, banks, post offices, restaurants, stores... Isn't it worth learning to speak the prevalent language for their own convenience?

Number 1 Pet Peeve -- Parents that refuse to beat their kids when they are being pains -in-the-asses!

Don't tell them to sit down and watch them ignore you -- BEAT THEM!

Don't tell them that they are going into Time Out, they know you will forget by the time they get home and, therefore, keep misbehaving -- BEAT THEM!

Don't let them talk back -- BEAT THEM for it EVEN HARDER!

This also applies to pets, significant others, and drunken friends as well.

Oh yeah, and people that bitch that the tip has to be 15% or 20% on the button -- just square the bill off at an even dollar (even if it is 18.34523%) and go -- the server will be happier getting your ass out of there so they can get another tipper in your spot.

......

Fucking whiners.

Wow ... great list! The only thing I'll add:

People who use the word "loose" when they mean "lose."

Bugs the crap right outta me.

Well, that and cell phones in movie theaters.

DG

When she takes up my side of the bed....DAMN IT!

What's the matter honey? "Nothing" << (Damn, I hate that)

Neighbors destroying and rebuilding a house at 7am...for months.

"Can I speak to the man of the house?" - Click (dial tone)



Well, that's about enough of that...

...oh yes! And when the damn drive-thru person can't get the simplest order right.

I'm done now.

DG

" "

In Belgium, the standard tip is zero (0%), and there are *lots* of excellent restaurants. [Of course, much of what makes up a tip is included in the price].

At least you know that, when you give a tip, they *know* I appreciated the service.

As an interesting side note: as a result, servers have a different outlook on things. They'll definitely not just be courteous to you[1] until they get the tip, then make it absolutely clear that, as far as they're concerned, you can drop dead once they got the tip.

They'll usually be their own self, and interact rather normally with you (i.e.: if you're a complete twit, treat you accordingly).

[1] In the US, the worst are the waiters trying to absolutely prove to you they know French as soon as you've uttered something like "souffle" without the obligatory US twang. You'd want to give them a tip just to shut up.

I was just thinking I'd love to go get a beer with you (or pour some absinthe) and talk for hours. You and I would get along great.


Oh course, we may beat each other with fish a time or two. . .

From my (too limited) experiences in EuroFuckyLand, it seems to me that European servers take much more pride in doing their job well, & are not embarrassed to be working in a restaurant. They also tend to be more mature. American servers (in general) are late teen/early 20's kids who are just using the job as a stop-gap until they can get a "real" job doing whatever it is they believe their mission in life to be.

Part of the problem may be cultural attitudes towards fine dining. Europeans enjoy eating well, & go to great efforts to do just that. Americans seem to feel there is something decadent about enjoying a meal too much. So, as an extension, a restaurant worker in EuroFuckyLand is doing something worthwhile, while an American server is employed in a vaguely shameful business.

Of course these are the most sweeping generalities, & I've had excellent service in the US (& tipped accordingly) as well as poor service in EuroFuckyLand, but overall I believe it to be true.

This is also the case in Chile and Argentina. Servers (and they're almost always men) work for years in the same restaurants. They tend to be middle-aged and take their jobs very seriously. They're also more respected here than in the U.S.

In Buenos Aires, it is a longstanding tradition that servers never, ever write down orders. Their ability to commit every order to memory is a source of pride. This in a country where tips hardly ever exceed 10%.

Another job which I'd be horrible at.

for fuck sakes - i usually forget what I'VE ordered let alone what everybody else has.

the use of the word 'of' in place of the word 'have'... should of, would of, could of...

assholes who only know one language and demand that others learn it for some arbitrary reason like where they happen to live...

motherfuckers that don't think the word 'motherfucker' is comedy itself

doublespeak, newspeak, propaganda, pr, etc. and the fact that the buy every word of it

presumptious buttpuppets that claim to know the secrets of the universe...

the police state

a government that apparently has read 1984 and decided it was chock full of great ideas...

lists of pet peeves that never seem to end

hot lesbians that refuse to sleep with me just because i have a penis (close minded batchles)

bad toilet paper

Sancho

Have you been reading 1984 recently?The scary thing about the philosophies
in that book are they actually make sense if you concentrate.

I do'nt like any of those "speaks" either.

Orwellian societies.

Find yourself a bi girl(or two).

Bad toilet paper truly is bad(1 ply)especially when you get to the end
of the roll.

People with purple hair

Chicks who won't admit that my hair is the softest they've ever felt

Sports Utility Vehicles

Old ladies that don't put out after you buy them 2 cheeseburgers

Wheat

People from Guam who wear velcro shoes

Leather toaster ovens

Girls who wear too much pink

People named Elvis, other than THE KING

Wedding DJ's that end the night with "Last Dance" by Sonna Dummer

This thread

Thread

Yarn

Twine

Smart puppet.
Funny puppet.
Good puppet.

that's my point... why limit your options?

that's why it peeves me...

Sancho

Do you limit your options?

Sounds like it doubles his chances for a date.....

DG

i'll fuck just about anything...
--
sancho
!!!*WINK*!!!

Chop and Echo

I see you are still reading and contributing to this thread.

Are you going to add this to the list of your pet peeves?

Sancho




Or just and wearing costumes?











Cheers,

Drunk/drugged panhandlers. ("No, I won't spend it on booze, I *got* booze money...")

People who wear too much perfume/cologne.

People who don't bathe at least once or twice a week, unless they are actually homeless.

People who sit in a small enclosed space, chain-smoke until they are coated with visible layers of tar, and then get on a bus and sit down next to me.

Smoking. (Except for cigars and pipes.)

Dogs. Maybe it's just my neighborhood, but 90% of them seem to be badly trained, neglected, half-feral shit machines that bark everytime someone walks by their yard. Pretty useless burglar alarm if the damn thing just barks all the time, isn't it?

Children, for approximately the same reasons.

People who don't train their dogs and/or children to show some reserve in public. "Ohhh, he LIKES you", they say, as the creature drools on me. (Fine, now call him the fuck off or I'll see how he tastes made into egg rolls.)

People who don't fucking THINK before deciding to have dogs or children at all.

Boom cars.
Stereos turned up too loud.
Cell phone ringers cranked up all the way.
Noise pollution in general.

The biggie: Contempt for work and those who must do it. This takes too many forms to list, but here's a few:

-- Corporate bastards who get millions in 'assistance' from state or local governments, pay themselves a handsome salary, lay off thousands of people, then quit with a fat retirement package.
-- People who treat servers/retail workers/help desk workers like shit.
-- People who cross picket lines.
-- Shameless fawning over celebrities and the rich, no matter how they got their money or how they treat those who helped them get it.
-- Businesses that cut health care benefits/full time positions while making a profit

Good list.

I hate cigarette smoke too;I am allergic to it and end up coughing up
my lungs if I have to be around it.Sorry,I can't stand cigar smoke,but pipe
smoke smells somewhat pleasant.

People that do'nt train their dogs are often neglecting them.
They live their lives at the end of chains or locked in the yard
with no attention.The barking drives me nuts,too,but they have
nothing else to do.Well cared for dogs that are allowed to jump
and slobber on everyone are a different story.We
are supposed to find these"friendly" dogs endearing.

Children-Parents consider their children to be cute to everyone,
no matter how much they shriek or hang on the edge of your table
at restaraunts.

People that beat their children should be jailed.
When they get out of jail and have more kids,the kids should be
taken away and the parents sterilized.I have had to call the
police several times because small children were shrieking
so loundly the dispatcher could hear them.Some shrieks go
beyond annoying.

People should be treated decently,no matter how low their
wages .I remember working for min.wage at a fast food
place and having to clean up after parents who had left a
dirty diaper on the booth seat.Not my job.

Damn, I forgot about cigarette smoke.

WHY THE FUCK should I have to inhale SOMEONE ELSES CANCER MACHINE.

If you smoke in a public place. FUCK YOU! take it outside.

Damned right! Cheap Bastards! Buy the full sized Hummers instead!

Damned straight. If you can't afford to take care of them (lack of insurance in case of children, lack of bling in case of dogs), then NEWSFLASH, DON'T GET ONE! Really a pet-peeve (no pun intended) in case of the pets aspect. It's a pet! No, the veterinarian is not going to give you free services because it is sick and you can't afford it's care, it is not a necessity for you to live, so GET RID OF IT if you can't afford it!

Cold-hearted, maybe. But even the vet has bills to pay.

I saw Henry Rollins live. He has a cute nickname for those that drive Hummers (any sort). Well, actually, he has a name for the hummer itself, and the drivers get a name that goes with it.

The Hummer = The Dickhead.

And that was a longish drive for
nought.

Jeez, will the whining never end?

I tend to tip according to how much money I have. If I am doing well, so will you. I think it is shitty that if you get tips they can stiff you on minimum wage (minimum, Hello!) but you chose it. Get a McJob, at least it is minumum wage.


Pet Peeve:

CHEEZ-anything.

Hey, this is the Whine Line, dont whine about it!




I like Peruche's list; Picket line crossers and SMOKERS, espcially entitled smokers who just don't get it.

Lars, If I lived in the moter city I'd look you up and bring something to drink (and a fish of my own) but I'm down here in Virginny trying to produce literature in an illiterate area. . . . oh the irony!

More Peeves:

Incompetence. It makes us all work harder.
Also, people who bring their dogs to public events like art shows and crowded outdoor events.

beat, yes

discipline physically, no
--
sancho

Slippery slope, though. I bet all the ones that beat there children (including the ones that grab them by the ankle and drop them on the floor, or shake them so hard they crack some ribs and damage their brains) think they're "physically disciplining them".

let me finish runnin sancho jr's hand through the garbage disposal and i'll reply to your post...
--
sancho
busy

he must've felt like a real Dickhead driving one in Jackass.

I sell reference books to states like Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana.

I feel your pain bro.

[quote=Celticgent,Dec 11 2003, 02:26 PM]
The Hummer = The Dickhead. [/QUOTE]
he must've felt like a real Dickhead driving one in Jackass. [/quote]
No shit?

Oh, that's funny!

I never felt it?

That would be, "...driving one in Jack's ass".

Behold the power of the apostrophe!

But please don't let me interupt your fantasy.

Just clean up when you're done.

ass-post-trophy!

Keep your glory pictures to yourself, please.

Good one though!