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Crosby
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Thanks for the great write-up Jamie!

As is often the case with absinthe news, particularly of this magnitude, there’s so much information to assimilate and so much excitement that’s it’s easy to misunderstand small but important details. I take responsibility for any misunderstandings, as I could’ve probably made myself clearer when I talked with you and the folks at Tales of the Cocktail.

I’ll of course be writing much more at length over at the Wormwood Society, but I’ll excerpt the most important bits here:

Marteau Verte Classique is being distilled in Switzerland by the Matter-Luginbühl distillery by Oliver Matter, the award-winning distiller of the Duplais line of absinthes as well as Marilyn Mason’s Mansinthe, Giger’s Brevans and the Brut d’alambic.

I developed the formula over the last three years myself and then commissioned the distillery to make it, strictly according to my recipe and protocols. My intent is to eventually establish my own distillery and take over production personally. As an interim measure. I’m in the early stages of working with an American distillery to begin production myself, stateside. No idea yet on time-frame.

While this absinthe is distilled in Switzerland, “Absinthe Suisse” refers to a specific traditional distillation procedure and designates a customary quality category of absinthes. The extra steps involved in creating a true Absinthe Suisse assures a depth of character and quality that wouldn’t have been found in an “absinthe ordinaire”, “absinthe demi-fine” or “absinthe fine.”

Based on traditional recipes from the 19th century, this is the first absinthe, since the 1912 ban at least, that was developed specifically for use in classic cocktails. As you know, it’s very good as a drink on its own, but I chose the specific botanicals in proportions to lend a more savory and aromatic component than other traditional absinthes, which can often be too candy-like. Rather than cut back on the anise, I’ve worked with other herbs and brought them forward to compliment it and surround it in a bouquet, rather than push it into the background.

The sample which you have and which the 150 people at the Forgotten Ingredients panel discussion at Tales of the Cocktail were from my prototypes, since the end commercial product has not yet been released.

Artisanal products, particularly new ones, are subject to change. Different apparatus, different regional herb sources, different water, these are the variables we have to work with. The first release of Marteau Verte Classique will possibly be slightly different in character than the samples, but every effort is being made to bring it as close as possible given the conditions. Future batches will be adjusted if necessary to achieve the desired profile.

For now, starting probably in early October, it will be available exclusively from Markus Lion at absinthe-distribution.com, distributing from Germany; it might be picked up by other vendors later.

It will first be done in very small batches, approximately 200 liters and will be sold in half-liter bottles. We’ll increase production according to demand.

It should fit into roughly the same price range as the other Matter absinthes, but the final tally is not in yet. The process is a little more complicated and there are a number more botanicals in it than a lot of other absinthes.

No samples or labels have been submitted to the TTB yet. (FDA sets the standards, but in spirits, approval rests with the TTB).

Washington does provide distiller’s licenses, and has licensed several distilleries in the past few years, but the qualifications to run a distilled spirits plant are somewhat intimidating and expensive. If you have plenty of cash and hire an attorney who specializes in the spirits industry, it shouldn’t be too difficult.

However, Washington also has a Chemist Distiller’s permit for only $20 a year, available to commercial chemists and developers who are not manufacturing spirits for sale.

I hope this helps some.

Cheers!

Gwydion Stone aka “Hiram”

Gwydion Stone (aka Hiram) said this on July 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pm


http://spiritsandcocktails.wordpress.com/2...erte-classique/
greeneyes
Oh dear.
sixela
He's taken marketing lessons from Ted, I see.

Wait a few years and he'll be unable to resist looking in the mirror, even though it will be pointless. At least Ted sees himself in the mirror.
sixela
To his credit, the subtitle of his intro thread about Marteau displays some humour (and an obvious Lounge reference):

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Absinthe Marteau Verte Classique, my absinthe is pretty good; maybe you should try it.

DrinkSlinger
So, like Ted, his commercial offering will not compare to the lab samples.

Only, unlike Ted, his lab samples weren't all that exciting.
mthuilli
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Based on traditional recipes from the 19th century, this is the first absinthe, since the 1912 ban at least, that was developed specifically for use in classic cocktails.

I don't subscribe.
Specifically for cocktails?
That bad?
Sorry but I don't mix a $80-$100 absinthe with anything except water.
Same goes for a single malt.
If I want to make a Sazerac, I use UE or Pernod.
If I want to make a whiskycoke, I use J&B or Lawson.
hissykitties
I'll drink to that.
Louched Liver
Socked it to
the point!
Porkio
QUOTE(mthuilli @ Jul 25 2007, 05:15 PM) *

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Based on traditional recipes from the 19th century, this is the first absinthe, since the 1912 ban at least, that was developed specifically for use in classic cocktails.

I don't subscribe.
Specifically for cocktails?
That bad?
Sorry but I don't mix a $80-$100 absinthe with anything except water.
Same goes for a single malt.


The current director we're working for was handed a glass from a $150 bottle of 18 year old Macallan. She asked what it was, and we said it was really good Whisky. She then poured the rest of her can of Fresca into it and drank it.

It's kind of like saying "I really like that Miles Davis song except for that annoying muted trumpet"
mthuilli
Oh boy.
Louched Liver
Kinda like saying
I like Porkio's posts,
except for the
words.
Louched Liver
Oh, wait.
sixela
We like your posts, except for the wit.
TheGreenOne
So, there's nothing in them you object to?
sixela
I won't be subjected to that kind of interrogation.
TheGreenOne
Hello, Guantanamo.
Stroller
QUOTE
No samples or labels have been submitted to the TTB yet. (FDA sets the standards, but in spirits, approval rests with the TTB).

Washington does provide distiller’s licenses, and has licensed several distilleries in the past few years, but the qualifications to run a distilled spirits plant are somewhat intimidating and expensive. If you have plenty of cash and hire an attorney who specializes in the spirits industry, it shouldn’t be too difficult.


An attorney is not needed & the costs are not very high. Figure 6-9 months in Washington. There is nothing intimidating about it.
GreyBoy2
Butt it makes a grate story.
Off. Jack Batemaster
So transparent to me...butt I will knot tell you why pubically...
DrinkSlinger
Of course not. zzzzz.gif
Louched Liver
Gettin' wearying...
jaded prol
More innuendo without the backup.

As for the Hsinthe, I'm interested in tasting it but I'm not gonna blow a wad of dough for it. Whoever the maker, the product will speak for itself.
G&C
QUOTE(jaded prol @ Jul 25 2007, 06:22 PM) *

As for the Hsinthe, I'm interested in tasting it


It's so good it's made to be mixed into crockofxitails.
Louched Liver
H is lookin' for
that niche market
that doesn't exist.
Stroller
That market does exist.

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DrinkSlinger
To be honest, I think a larger market for absinthe exists if one can come up non-traditional absinthe cocktails. I've said this before.

Amercians love faux-tini's and cocktails. They're not big on mixing water with booze... They want to put their booze in coke, or juice or with other booze. I get where he's going, but unfortunately that means his version of absinthe will be pretty non-special.

I'll just wait on this one.
Not to mention the only way to get it is through Markus.

Louched Liver
Waiting won't be hard.
G&C
Something might be hard but it definitely won't be the waiting.
DrinkSlinger
Getting past the smell?
or Hireman when the loot starts rolling in.
Louched Liver
W/o' bullxit
in every
bottle.

Or can? Mebbe
it'll be the 1st
American canned
absinthe.
DrinkSlinger
I can see Hireman pushing his product in the can.
Louched Liver
And there's
Google's
Anal Rape.
Stroller
Well Hiram is going to need someone to buy into the concept. That will be the difficult part. Then having the producer send samples to the TTB. He can't without a basic permit among other things. I wish him well but I think he may be trying to push a chain uphill. This press release (what it looks like to me) is basically nothing more than shopping for that partner.
DrinkSlinger
If his Euro recipe sells well, I bet some dumbass amercian VC will pony up the money.
Either that, or he'll bank what he makes and use it to fund his project.

Louched Liver
Mebbe we'll have a
sample @ LF09.
DrinkSlinger
True.
I'm sure the sink we'll be in dire need of cleaning by then.

Unless it really sux, then it can share the distinct honor with Larrygonna , and clean the toilet bowl.
TheGreenOne
Laugh if you want, but the Marteau was quite popular in NOLA.
DrinkSlinger
I wanted too, and did.
Louched Liver
Found the market,
apparently.
absinthist
It is like strangling someone with velvet gloves and sarcastic smile.
jaded prol
You still here?
absinthist
I do not distill here.
Wild Bill Turkey
Oh. You see what's happened? When Prol asked if he was still here, he mistook it for a question about distilling, because still is a word for an alembic. See? Still= distilling. That's very funny.

But no, what he was asking was: Does your presence yet linger here, festering, if you will, amongst us?
absinthist
Who are you talking to, WBT? First symptoms of schizophrenia are mild but long-lasting. Is it the phase of hearing voices?
Louched Liver
Who said that?
Porkio
They both said nothing.
Louched Liver
Xit, not my
"friends" talkin'
to me again...
Chris
Since I've been called out for all lurking and no posting, and this is as good a place as any to start here I go...
My name is Chris I have been drinking absinthe for about two years, I have met a couple people from this forum in person, and from this point forward I'll try and not make too big an ass of myself.

Thanks.
jaded prol
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Who are you talking to, WBT?


He was talking to you.
absinthist
Thus, why 3rd person, I am not Caesar and at the moment in fact require a more constructive talk-I am a bit busy right now.
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