wow...

Downloading, the remake seems to be not out yet.

Peeps and I are
already discussing
whether the remake
will be a sell out.

I'd like Porkio to weigh
in on this. Reading
the same article in the
NY Times he did got
me to rent the movie.

Oh, I'd think Porkio would be all over it.

He was, @ FV.

Re-makin' it must be really tough job. I even doubt whether the remake could actually surpass the original. Great movie, in a sense satirical.

Hard to believe it
will compare.

+, the gig is up
from jump if'n
you've seen the
original.

Those of us who have, will fer sure demand much more. I was thinkin' what he might add:

-show death-scenes
-develop the motives between Paul/Peter' s sadistic inclinations further
-give an alternate ending

But remakes rarely are that successful. Take TCM 1974 and TCM 2003.

Total
Cum
Monkey
?

Mebbe there is such an one. I meant Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I was thinking Tits' Craptacular Metafiasco.
But that's just one-long-never-fucking-ending saga.
No do-overs allowed.

Yeah, I like you, too.

You said you were thinkin'? Grate success! How was the first time?

The first time
was an instant classic.

I'll have my pick
of detractors
for the remake.

That's just one of the reasons why the TCM remake wasn't that good. Leatherface was reduced from the impersonalized and faceless Evil to some freak with a motive.

Thass right! He was inevitable Evil in its pure form, so were his family with Grandpa to the fore.

Some humane motive were introduced in TCM 2, but only for the sake of humour and absurdity. TCM 4 was a failure, there was no Leatherface but some clown or what and the primordial atmos"fear" was lost.

We will see what Haneke creates anew.

The fact there
is no given basis
for the protagonists
actions in Funny
Games is part of
what makes it so
unsettling.

So, what HellBitch said.

I'm pretty excited about the remake. I don't think Haneke could top what he did in the original, but I think he might be able to make it nearly as good, just different.

That movie is still the most disturbing movie I've ever seen (and his other two Caché and Piano Teacher are both a close 2nd, see those too). I don't know anyone who has seen it who has not walked away at the end feeling permanently altered by that movie. It makes all those stupid torture Saw-Hostel films seem like cartoons.

I think it's kind of cool that he's remade it for the US though, because, as the NY Times article points out, he's sort of the anti-Tarantino. Americans are used to seeing "cool" violence, whereas Haneke's violence seems so real that you feel like you're watching him kill your friends. And most of the time he doesn't even show anything graphic, certainly not by US standards.

The biggest issue I have with the remake though (take it as a grain of salt, obviously not having seen it yet) is his choice of Naomi Watts. The woman in the original version was very plain by comparison, and thus seemed utterly real, whereas Naomi Watts is just too sexy. Then again, maybe that's the only thing that might get your average American movie goer to go see the film, so I don't doubt that Haneke knows what he is doing.

Porkio, did you ever get the chance to see Perfume? What did you think of it?

Most disturbing, mon piglet?
How could you forget
Irreversible????

Hmm, the remake of Oceans 11 was better than the original, and some would argue that the remake of The Ring is better than the original (I think The Ring remake is better dramatically, but the original is WAY scarier).

And I think Batman Begins was heads above all the other Batman movies.

And you're all going to hate me for this one, but Tim Burton's remake of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory matches the images I got in my head when I read Raold Dahl's book much better than the 70s kids movie.

Here's some bad remakes though:
--Ladykillers
--The Truth About Charlie
--Manchurian Candidate
--Solaris
--Texas Chainsaw Massacre
--The Hills Have Eyes
--The Omen
--Never Say Never Again (remake of Thunderball)
--Psycho
--Rear Window
--Dark Waters (the original sucked too)

Oh, not yet but I really want to. I've been trying to catch up with Battlestar Galactica so my Netflix Queue is booked but Perfume is next after BSG.

I found Irreversible to be more inspirational/devotional than upsetting...

Seriously though, Funny games is more upsetting on the whole because it's not stylized (though the fire-extinguisher head bash and the rape scene in Irreversible are very traumatizing). Because it's all backwards, however, by the end it kind of ends up being its own therapy. If it were played in chronological order, I probably wouldn't be here because I would have killed myself.

I'll show ya
the reverse
button, despite
the title.

Bad remakes?

LoucheD Lounge.

Saw it, it could have been a great movie but the end fucks it all.


WAY scarier for sure, I found the remark so flat. No comparison.

I have it on DVD with detailed shootin' how rape and fire-extinguisher bashin' were made.

Grate movie in any sense and very probable to happen, Funny Games is deeper but more fictitious, every normal family would kill Peter/Paul (is Dickie his alter ego, bad brother?), their over-niceness would be too suspicious.

Fuck the Ring, get original Japanese "Ju-On", or "Infection" - the essence of making even bunny get scared™.

Ju-on IS a creep
fest.

What's not original about Ring (Ringu)? Was made way before Ju-On btw.
Watching Ringu in a dark room with good stereo headphones was fookin' scary.

Try a mirror.

You won't need
the headphones.

Scariestest indeed!
At least I still can look at my socky face in a miror.
Some can't.
HA!

I don't know if it was the crawling kid or just the normal looking scenes that scared me the most, but that was the scariest movie I've ever seen.
The filming reminded me of Woody Allen's sets and scenery.

Ringu-ok, the Ring-not ok (just as any remake);

Yeah, dark room, stereo, atmosfear. In fact, I could sleep after watching both, after Ju-On I simply could not-had to check my bed whether that weird girlie was coming/staring/creeping or shrieking. I have had such a a FEELING of her presence, brrrrrr...

Ju-On is pretty fucking evil (the Grudge was yet another lame-o remake). That's definitely one worth owning. Not as good of a first-date movie as Irreversible, but close...

I'd also recommend pretty much anything by Kiyoshi Kurosawa, my favourites of his are Seance and Cure. His movies aren't as creepy as Nakata, he goes more for unsettling plots than scary imagery, but he's a master too. My favourite Hideo Nakata film is still Ghost Actress, his first one. Scariest damned ghost story I've ever seen. Hard to find though, they show it on the Sundance Channel sometimes.

Kaïro from Kurosawa is in my list, seen it? Story looks grate.

Takashi Miike is also worth checking, Audition specially.

Downloading "Kairo", "The Changeling", "Jesus Camp".

Audition is a must-an introductory one to Japan Terror Theater.

I certainly hope not. All three of those things would bugger the film's intent and hobble its impact.

I do, too.

These ones are usually main causes of remake's failure, hopefully Haneke will behave as an artist, not famous director and leaves what's the best in the film.

Jesus Camp
was scary.

15% downloaded, moreover, dvd copy. Can't wait to see it. At first, I thought 'twas a horror, didn't expect it is actually a docu.

It's both.

Like the ol' French Grand Guignol.

So far none of the films signed that way had let me down. Highly recommended.

The remake is supposed to be shot-for-shot identical, with the only thing being different is the actors and the locations.

Just to nit-pick a little, any word on continuities or discontinuities on the other side of the camera?

Funny Games 2008

Pics look promising. Mebbe Watts was not that bad choice, after all.

The trailer doesn't make me feel that a remake was needed.
I like Tim roth though.

Haneke insisted
on Watts.

Indeed. Jesus Christ! What a devilish brainwashing these poor kids are exposed to.

We have these heretics here, but have never let them grow that strong-they are just one of more or less legalized sects. I thank God I am a Catholic. And more I thank I have never liked Pepsi-now I know the reason.

Ah, btw, someone should tell Becky Harry Potter is a fictitious character, thass one thing, the other: is more of a wizard/sorcerer, definitely not a warlock. Blessing microphones and computers qualifies as a very serious mental disorder and requires immediate treatment in a asylum as the patient might be seeing imaginative enemies in everyone.

I like that trailer, though I doubt it's the official one since the movie isn't coming out for several more months. The choice of Edvard Grieg's song "In the Hall of the Mountain King" makes it seem like it's fun and entertaining (didn't they use that same music for the preview for Elf or some other kid's Xmas movie?). People might actually go see it.