Thass true, hopefully we will have such an extrait in future.

I'm going to preface this with.
There's NOTHING wrong with making money.
I'll say it again, say it with me.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAKING MONEY.

I'd jump ship to earn a living with absinthe and I'd be damn proud of making money from something I'm passionate about. I wish every absintheur all the luck in the world at making money. Bless those making it a household name and bringing it into my living room.

While there are many little things that irritate me in the absinthe world, the thing that really sticks in my craw it's the "It's not about the money" comment.
Bullshit.

Whether it's building an online storefront, selling on ebay, or pumping out 10,000 liters of absinthe it's about the money.
If it wasn't you'd see "experiments" more often; as those with resources would do everything they could to promote/produce the highest quality absinthe possible. They'd be more concerned with reputation and what was possible to create, than the bottom line.

It IS about the money and that's ok.

Must we hear about what it takes for you keep your latest girlfriend?

With respect: Balls.

We are PRECISELY doing "everything we can to promote/produce the highest quality absinthe possible". While there are legal, regulatory and practical restrictions which in some respects limit what we, or any other commercial producer can do, there isn't a SINGLE ASPECT of the production of either Mystique or Roquette where we took a decision on the lines of "let's not to do this, because it'll cost too much". Not one thing ever.

Of course, we hope it'll be profitable. But as I've said before, there are easier - much easier - ways of making money. If it were just about money no-one would be in the business of making high-end absinthe - it's fraught with difficulties, it has an unwieldy cost structure, the whole business is at the mercy of regulatory agencies that can behave unpredictably, and the target market is a tiny niche of what's already a tiny niche of the drinks business. The fact that not one of the big worldwide liquor producers has shown even the slightest interest in making a high end absinthe is further proof of how commercially unattractive it is.

The attraction of the high-end absinthe business - like the wine business, or the restaurant business, is the thought of earning an income from doing something you love, not the pursuit of profit for its own sake. I have a hard time understanding why some here like Dinky can't seem to wrap their heads around this idea.

Felix, eh? Well, it is actually an exact reproduction of the Moonman, which is an exact clone of the Jades, which is an exact reproduction of the vintage. So non, not exact of vintage, but exact of the Moonman!

What Oxy said.

It's a passion, even an obsession but it would be good to make a modest living doing what one loves.

Man, I don't give a shit which one of you people does it, whether it's from France or from your kitchen. Just give me some Absinthe that I find genuinely enjoyable at a price I can afford and I'll be your fan.

≠ , future shall tell.

So it's mediocre at best. Just like some vintage. Can I have some?

I might trade sum for that Hellbich crap...I here it's grate in the sack...

Okay, but I can be really lousy in the sack and I refuse to dress up.

Well, I here The Marteau might be okay with fromage bleue stuffed olives and a capful of vermouth...

That's what I heard. Hellbitch is great with a splash of dropshot or psilocybin vodka.

That's funny. Jade only tastes like "authentic reproductions" with a xot of psilocybin vodka, butt only 30 mins after drinking the first one...

Just a splash? Cut poison with equal amount of other poison. Ethyl carbamate will round the taste.

That'd be The Mayor's love life...

Urethane? Will that do for an authentic reproduction?

No xit, Insignificunt...

If Zman's going to be there, I tain't goin'...

General-y,
who woodn't?

So, Oxy not 5,
tell me about
these much easier
ways to get ends.

I'm talking aboot The Cuff -- he gets waaay too excited for my ends...

Now I"m pissed that I cunt go.

That's cuz you're a cunt.

Ovey Snuop!

Oh, lots of ways, just a few that come to mind are:

1. Marry well.
2. Join Goldman Sachs straight out of school.
3. Become a teen pop sensation.
4. Find buried treasure.

Are these possible at all? In Sci-Fi novels, yes.

Seems reasonable to me.

it is about time we sang the Hymn of the League™!

In third, do not forget about red version as well and in last one, it is cheaper to purchase it from Fluka:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search...ity/FLUKA;04314

I'm lovin' the new avatar, Eric.

You are lucky, David, I can't see none.

Change your
bored settings.

Finally, thanks amigo.

Wait a minute, you're going to be there and Earlick's not? Then forget it, I'm real busy...

Wish I could make it

butt I'll be there in spirits


and on the phone.

I've resisted the urge to jump into this out of concern about offending somebody (again).

The list posted with all those products on it - I haven't tried all those by a long shot, but I've tried a lot of them, and I'm not really impressed by any of them. I think it's absurd to claim there are a couple of dozen truly good commercial absinthes in the world. There probably aren't even a half dozen.

It occurs to me that what the hardcore HG cult members are getting at is this: all those barriers about regulations, and labels, etc. etc. come into play AFTER you have a product you want to try and sell. Maybe what they're saying is that they would like to see research and development that would come up with a really GOOD absinthe, something that can be compared to the old Pernod. THEN address those other things in bringing it to market. The price will be the price. Some people will obviously pay it. Maybe a profit can be made, maybe not. But to trot out all those factors after the fact to defend the sale of a less than stellar product, or even a product not worthy of the name absinthe - people are going to say that money is the first issue, or even the only issue in such a case, regardless of the expertise of the makers, or their passion for the craft. This would seem to be a logical position, unless some of those factors actually PREVENT the making of a such a product, or make it so difficult that it isn't worth the effort - if this is the case, it hasn't been explained in a convincing way, at least not that I can understand.

Eric's new avatar makes me a little queasy, although I did use a similar one for a while

Finally, someone within The Absinthe Syndicate™ actually gets it!

Followin' current holidays, I have xopped it today:

Who will be cryin' this time?

Hopefully, Peter Shaft again. Freakin' whiner...

Sounds familiar...better stock up on the pepperoni...

I want Italian Sausage on mine!

IN yours,
more likely.

I see a lil' chorizo in his future.

I've never claimed, or thought, that there were "a couple of dozen" "truly good absinthes". But I do certainly think there are some, at least a handful. And considering the youth of the industry, a handful isn't bad.


The restrictions I was referring to, without exception, come into play BEFORE you make the product, or during its production.


I think there are already some "good absinthes". I don't think anything produced today can be compared to old Pernod. Research and development IS of course proceeding in the commercial sector.


I've never said anything prevents the making of good absinthe. I've said certain methodologies, certain ways of doing things, which may be possible or desirable in making HG, are either inappropriate, undesirable, or effectively impossible in true commercial production, for various reasons - some regulatory, some legal, some practical. As I said earlier, I've no intention of explaining these any further here online. None of these preclude the making of good absinthe. They simply mean that the techniques and methods appropriate for making 5 litres of absinthe, are not all the same as those appropriate for making 5000 litres of absinthe. I don't find this suprising at all, and I'm amazed that anyone does. My guess is that the same is pretty much true for every type of liquor production, not just absinthe.

...

He's always been more eloquent and to the point than I.


I'm getting tired about not stepping on feet.
Voice your opinion. Chances are you're not alone.

My list was an answer to a question about "decent co absinthes", I never said they were all "very good co absinthes".
I would exchange a bottle of PF1914 for all the bottles on that list any day.

I assume this is one of those instances
where size really does matter, for both
sides of the equation.

That's big of
ya.