Encouraging and worshipping are two different things.

And it's usually the artists that do the worshipping.

And who are these (how you say) "artists" you speak of?

Same artist that makes the Shell Drippers, John Troia.

I must be in a bad mood today, everybody and his brother are pissing me off royally.

Um no, and do I have to explain to you the difference between something born of pain, made by hand
in my back yard, a piece that is made different each time, for the individual who asked for it,
and clippings swept up from a factory floor, loaded into a gondola and floated out en masse?
On the one hand you (had) a piece of art, from me, on the other you have a widget from a factory.
Fuck, that cinches it, I quit, no xit, I'll throw myself under a train before I make one more god damn piece of absinthe culture xit.
The spoons are dead, long live the spoons.
But don't fret, I'll still be grinding away in my studio, still breathing the grit, still burning my corneas.
I'll be enjoying myself again.
I hate people, I'm tired of trying to explain why.

Besides the fact that John Troia did not make those spoons, they are not art, they are not "made"
in the way I use the term "Made". I'd rather not hear my work mentioned again than to have it mis understood so.

I didn't make any judgement. I personally think that e.g. your Artemisia spoons kick the Jade spoon's arse many times, for the record, if only because they're an original creation rather than a competent neo-something recreation. Not to mention the elephant grille.

Thanks 6. It's my fault for making them available, the best thing I can do for my spoons is kill them now.

My fav, a killer!

I have to say, it was a real thrill making them. The visions, the false starts
and small victories. I pushed my little work shed to limits I hadn't previously considered, I hope I find something to push it even further.
The process is rather childish, the mind bounces from one interest to another
all your life, responding, gradually becoming haunted with faces, tools, skills and detritus . We are a mansion, we are an open house.
Sometimes people or events leave a trace. It started with the Artemis grille,
I responded, I wanted to grille Artemis, I wanted to have a conversation with you, I wanted to share what I was doing and find out about what you all were doing.
I'm getting old and tired.

I know that everything we think is wrong, but it can work out right, we learn, things change.
The whole inspiration for the Artemis grille was wrong, I don't want to grille Artemis, I like the guy, he is tops on my list.
It's not likely I will be driven to respond in metal to this whole thing any time soon.

And I'm not driven
to meddle.

I will be up to Kirkensteinville
in a bit over a month to
hold your bleeding hands
and weeping head.

I did it for the booze, there should be booze.

John Troia is a chode....

...his first name means "toilet", after all...

Butt, those Jade spoons are "exact reproductions" of the original Jade spoon. Every detail of its making was explored and recreated using authentic techniques historically accurate and authentic down to unimaginably minute details. The few lucky absintheurs who have had a chance to use the original Jade spoon are unanimous in their remarks ass to the exactness of this exact reproduction.

And I'm sorry, Kirk. As Ted Breaux is the only "artist" who makes Absinthe as of yet, John Troia is the only "artist" who makes Absinthe artifacts...

hmmm. Is a "Juan" a Mexican toilet?

Depends on if he's next in line outside of the men's room door.

I think I'll design a toilet paper.

It'll be softer on the hands...

The spoons John and Kirk make are two entirely different animals and John has never represented it any differently. Never has he claimed that he’s making art here, though I’ve witnessed the amount of graphic art skills involved. I am amazed Hartsmar got this big of a reaction from his little snide comment.
One difference between Ted and Johns work, John actually did reverse-engineer his product. He put a lot of work into figuring out how the old spoons were manufactured and I imagine he’ll bring some interesting things to the marketplace, now dominated by Froggy PhiL. None of which should detract from the skill and passion Kirk puts into his work.

Did you spell it right?

H.S's comment was just a wake up call.
John actually made those spoons?
I didn't know that Cros, if he set up a shop and is stamping those out, my hat's off to him.
I never meant to insult any worker.

If that's true, his really are an authentic re creation, not an easy task.

Where can I learn more about what he did?

Maybe you should try to contact him.
Duh!

Kirkenstein occasionally
needs a push in the
rational direction.

Don't we all?

John is a very nice man, a gentleman, I've spent great times with him in Pontarlier.
You don't know him and you don't know his works, so stay away.
You can vent your spleen on anyone here or at FV, including me, I don't give a fuck, but not on John.

Agreed.

I don't think he really understands the vicious undercurrents that run through our little circle jerk. Then again, I'm not sure I do.

You sure you're not sure?

I don't want to contact him, I don't want to bother him, I have nothing to say, I know how it's done. I'd just like to know a little more such as;
Where are the spoons manufactured, who owns the press?
Does John make stuff for Tiffany? Is he Tempus Fugit?
I don't want to make any more of my spoons because I made too many already, how many copies of an original piece of art should I make?
I don't run a factory, until I think of something I'm driven to make there won't be anymore, if I do make anything it will be limited to less than 10.
They were more work than you might realize.

I checked my records and I'm pretty sure Roddr at eBay only bought one of my Artemis grilles, he got it from my auction.
It seems like he has sold more than one, anyone notice?
At any rate, I don't like seeing it there, I wonder why he bought it if he didn't want it.

Looks like three in the last few weeks.

here

But I can't tell if he actually sold them.

Thanks, it's in red, didn't sell.

I get it.

Been a long time since I did eBay.

It didn't sell, twice, so he raised the price.

Works in real estate.
If you do an eBay search, check mark "completed listings" in the left hand column and then "show items" , it will show you what stuff went (or didn't go) for.
When I did that I didn't get the grilles you found though.

I'm sorry. I forgot that you are teh chode....butt still, any "friend" of yours is also a chode...

In the stool...?

John Troia?

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/81/27/12m.jpg

Access denied.

Prezactly!

Referral denied. Another example for sumthin' proprietary and confidential?

Like the Crissy Puss files...

Those were the
Dumb Xit!!

You used to be betterer kiddy.