I'm thinking of trying to grow some of this, cause I don't live in hawaii:
http://www.uni-graz.at/~katzer/engl/Pipe_aur.html
It looks like it might be a nice herb to have around, but I am struggling to find a source of the plant. Do any of you have any great sources of seeds or seedlings for hard to find herbs? Shucks, for that matter, do any of you know anything about the Pepperleaf? I said it sounds nice, but I don't have any first hand experience.
Thanks
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yea! I gots me some google. I know a lot of information about the plant now. I may have found one vendor (gotta wait till I'm at home to see the page), but everyone else just says dreamy things about how great it is and how unavailable it is.
QUOTE(Rho @ Jun 12 2008, 12:06 PM) 
everyone else just says dreamy things about how great it is and how unavailable it is.
...
Boże
uchowaj.
uchowaj.
I find work to be easier when I have someone else to do it for me.
Alas,
http://davesgarden.com/products/ps/go/530/
I can't get to the second link from here. But after some digging, I found the rootbeer plant on the almost eden site.
By the way, does anyone have any experience with this plant? I'm guessing that the green scum posting above knows nothing of it? Here is a snippet from the wikipedia,
Alas,
http://davesgarden.com/products/ps/go/530/
I can't get to the second link from here. But after some digging, I found the rootbeer plant on the almost eden site.
By the way, does anyone have any experience with this plant? I'm guessing that the green scum posting above knows nothing of it? Here is a snippet from the wikipedia,
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The complex flavor of hoja santa is not so easily described; it has been compared to eucalyptus, licorice, sassafras, anise, nutmeg, mint, tarragon, and black pepper.
'ho no you don't,
no ho' sinthe
north o' the border.
no ho' sinthe
north o' the border.
QUOTE(Rho @ Jun 12 2008, 10:06 AM)
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The complex flavor of hoja santa is not so easily described; it has been compared to eucalyptus, licorice, sassafras, anise, nutmeg, mint, tarragon, and black pepper.
Anisette?
http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/root_beer_plant.htm
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Native Range: From Mexico through Colombia.
Local Adaptation
United States - Grows quite well in California, Florida, and most Gulf-coast states. Can be invasive in Hawaii.
Pacific Islands - Potentially invasive outside of its native range in warm, tropical areas with few predators.
Local Adaptation
United States - Grows quite well in California, Florida, and most Gulf-coast states. Can be invasive in Hawaii.
Pacific Islands - Potentially invasive outside of its native range in warm, tropical areas with few predators.
The other site suggests a high safrole content (probably why it is called a root beer plant).
I ordered a plant from the Eden site, I'll see how it tastes. It may make an interesting addition to an anise based liquor, I don't know. I believe the safrole is more water soluble than ethanol (it's usually steam distilled, from what I know). So, the pepperroot may work in a second maceration.
I ordered a plant from the Eden site, I'll see how it tastes. It may make an interesting addition to an anise based liquor, I don't know. I believe the safrole is more water soluble than ethanol (it's usually steam distilled, from what I know). So, the pepperroot may work in a second maceration.
Why do people have this urge to add weird herbs to anise-flavored booze?
Hanger Dumb syndrome.
It is the newesest kewel thing to do. Once you have done it, you can put up your own absinthe classes, y'know and charge people for attending them.
And no matter what you add, some otherwise knowledgeable people will defend it as well-made absinthe . . .
Profit requires no knowledge, sadly. The line is so thin, usually artistry is lost halfway for the sake of business.
Oh, I have other uses for it besides absinthe. But it sounded like it might be a fun herb to play with there too. I'm curious about it's use in cooking, and such. Just interested in it's flavor.
And if it's the missing herb for great absinthe, awesome. Do I think it will be the perfect fairy bringing herb.. probably not. I guess, perhaps, if I did a lot of chemistry to that safrole. But that's not really the chemistry I care to do.
Wait, making absinthe is illegal. Unless I want to green some Kubler or something. Guess I better just cook with it.
And if it's the missing herb for great absinthe, awesome. Do I think it will be the perfect fairy bringing herb.. probably not. I guess, perhaps, if I did a lot of chemistry to that safrole. But that's not really the chemistry I care to do.
Wait, making absinthe is illegal. Unless I want to green some Kubler or something. Guess I better just cook with it.
Betterer wood be usin' it in kitchen first. Sum' people eat it, so I hear, musta be edible, mebbe tasty iffen.
Kouzobler coloured green will definitely benefit from it. Dependin' on what ya'll use as colourants.
Kouzobler coloured green will definitely benefit from it. Dependin' on what ya'll use as colourants.
Why does Faux think there's a missing herb for great absinthe? I've had truly great absinthe. Absolutely nothing is missing.
I've not. I'm still looking. Just don't have the cash to look real hard right now.
The very finest absinthe I've had was free.
Kinda makes it hard to go back to preban.
All the preban I've had was free.
You have very nice and generous friends, then. (Perhaps the definition of friendship.)
I have a good friend who greatly enjoys vintage port. I have sampled a number of bottles with him, and I am greatful of his generosity. When it comes to absinthe, he is happy enough with Deva and Slerpis while I search for better quality booze. I am not complaining about this at all! And when I open my cabinet, he drinks what he would like of it. I have simply not found a modern CO that perfectly suits my taste (and cannot order frequently to continue sampling the more expensive bottles).
I have a good friend who greatly enjoys vintage port. I have sampled a number of bottles with him, and I am greatful of his generosity. When it comes to absinthe, he is happy enough with Deva and Slerpis while I search for better quality booze. I am not complaining about this at all! And when I open my cabinet, he drinks what he would like of it. I have simply not found a modern CO that perfectly suits my taste (and cannot order frequently to continue sampling the more expensive bottles).
QUOTE(TheGreenOne @ Jun 12 2008, 02:12 PM)
I've had truly great absinthe. Absolutely nothing is missing.
Indeed!™
QUOTE(Rho @ Jun 13 2008, 04:11 AM)
I have simply not found a modern CO that perfectly suits my taste
Coz there is none that wood do?
That is a question I cannot yet answer. Send me a sample of every CO offered, and I will get back to you 
Waste of time, package, and sample botsies. There are sum that are good, butt NONE of them is grate, believe me. Or not™.
QUOTE(Rho @ Jun 13 2008, 05:11 AM)
When it comes to absinthe, he is happy enough with Deva and Slerpis while I search for better quality booze.
There was a time when Deva was the best you could do. On the other hand, Serpis 65 is one of the best absinthes ever made. And I do mean by anyone, anywhere, ever!
http://www.feeverte.net/guide/country/spai...serpis_65/#more
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Reviewed by Crosby & Head Prosthesis 1/20/2007
COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
Perfect shade of red.
LOUCHE ACTION 10/10
Beautiful! Builds slowly from the bottom.
COLOR AFTER WATER 10/10
Tropical, lovely pinkish-orange
AROMA 29/30
Tropical, fruity, delicious, unidentifiable aroma. Reminds Head of Christmas in Michigan!
MOUTH-FEEL 9/10
Coats the pallete like a leather tongue in a velvet sock.
TASTE 18/20
Tropical, spicey something. Slight latex after-taste like a flavored condom.
OVERALL IMPRESSION 10/10
Unique, one of a kind. The only thing Head buys three bottles at a time.
PERSONAL NOTES
Yes, we were sober.
Crosby & Head Prosthesis scores Serpis 65 96 out of 100
COLOR BEFORE WATER 10/10
Perfect shade of red.
LOUCHE ACTION 10/10
Beautiful! Builds slowly from the bottom.
COLOR AFTER WATER 10/10
Tropical, lovely pinkish-orange
AROMA 29/30
Tropical, fruity, delicious, unidentifiable aroma. Reminds Head of Christmas in Michigan!
MOUTH-FEEL 9/10
Coats the pallete like a leather tongue in a velvet sock.
TASTE 18/20
Tropical, spicey something. Slight latex after-taste like a flavored condom.
OVERALL IMPRESSION 10/10
Unique, one of a kind. The only thing Head buys three bottles at a time.
PERSONAL NOTES
Yes, we were sober.
Crosby & Head Prosthesis scores Serpis 65 96 out of 100
It's fine, and we'll buy another. But for table wine only. Tastes vary. I wont laugh at beetlejuice, just look for better.
Hmm, maybe it's the Mexican Pepperleaf that is the secret behind NS-55's spicey goodness that no other absinthe producer can match...GOTTA GET ME SOME PEPPERLEAF!!!!
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Slight latex after-taste like a flavored condom.
Which one of you
identified this taste?
That was Kallisti's input.
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