Yeah thats right. I don't care what anyone else says. I'm going to go see it tonight.

Tell me what you think, but no spoilers please. I plan to see it this weekend.

Righty O, I'll let ya know.

It's about these humans that have to go into the matrix on a mission and then have to find a phone to get out. But wait, there's an agent and they have to fight him to get to a phone. But they left something behind, and have to go back into the matrix. They finish the mission and now they have to find a phone to get out. But wait, an agent appears and someone has to fight him while the others find the phone and get out of the matrix.

Or was that the first one, or maybe, I'm thinking of the second one.

Questions:

Why don't those agents grab one of those cell phones and check the caller id. Then they would have the phone number for Zion, do a reverse lookup on anywho.com and get their address?

Why do they even need the matrix, just give everyone the same "dream," wouldn't be an easier program to write?

And why does Neo dress like a priest?

Verbose Buck

Oh that's just great! Thanks for spoiling the entire story before I see it.

Question

Why don't they just use cows to power the Matrix? Then all they would need for a dream simulation is a green pasture.

Why does everyone feel the need to breath while they're in the matrix? I mean didn't Morpheus basicly say that they weren't actually breathing air?

Words, words, words.
Whippin' yer verbal dicks.
How cute!
Didn't read much of those encylopedias.
But thanks.

I went and saw it first show this morning, and maybe I over-expected, but I was a bit let down by it all.

That's all I'll say for right now, as to avoid leaking any info. Besides, I may warm up to it more with another viewing, which I plan on doing this weekend.

Kee' Rhist,
yer a bunch of ATMs!

Fluffy said it all.

Cows, baby. Cows.

Okay .... serious geek alert. I was one of the many that got up at 5:00am to go see the first 6:00am showing. Only about 15 seats empty in the theater. Anyway, on with my review:

If you liked the first one, but hated the second one, you'll like the third one better than #2. Now, if you loved the first one AND the second one, you'll wet your pants for the third. However, if you missed the first one and got in on the second, the third will make things much clearer.

Bottom line, the CG effects were awesome, the story, kinda thin and some of the acting marginal at best. What it reminded me of was one of those old melodramas .... the only thing missing was a black top hat for Agent Smith and a white cowboy hat for Neo.

I'm glad I didn't pay full pop .... you really can't surpass the coolness of the first one.

IMHO,

DG

You hit the nail one the head with that one DG. I really enjoyed this film.
I always like to see anime style effects in a real life film.

a lot of gals say that.

DG

isn't that the same plot as E.T.?

I think you're right.

That also remindes me of that episode of Gilligan's Island where they have a chance to get off the island and then Gilligan fucks it up and now they're stuck on the island. But, next week, they have another chance to ...............

Now that I think about it, the Matrix is a total rippoff of Gilligan's Island.

Buck

I went and hit an early evening showing of the new matrix,
It blew away #2, but didnt touch #1 in coolness.

Frankly I was glad the CGI fight scenes didnt look at bad as they did in #2, sure it was good CGI, but it was so obvious when they switched between footage and CGI. This time I actually had to look hard for the totally CGI parts.

I think that they did setup for a potential new series of movies, postwar matrix. I think the damn little girl is the key. Maybe a series of books, comics, or anime dvd like animatrix... it isnt the last we have heard I am sure!

I'd rather watch Mabel Normand throw a pie in Charlie Chaplin's face, it was real then.

Jethrow ~

From what I understand, the immediate follow-up will be some sort of monthly-fee (of course) online game where players are jacked in to the Matrix (with no "real world" play) with stories and screnarios overseen by the Wachowski Bros.

Sadly, I think the sole point of the Matrix is dazzling eye candy. Any plot coherency and drama is secondary. Too bad because I think it would be much better if the characters were something other than monotone cardboard cutouts.

That being said, I find them at least entertaining. All technical aspects, particularly the CG, digital lighting correction and sound effects, are among the best I've seen in a film.

After reading my last post, I forgot to mention that The Matrix: Revolutions made almost zero sense.
(SPOILER ALERT!!!--not that it really matters since the movie is STUPID).

Can somebody who has seen The Matrix Revolutions please explain the following to me?
1) Why did the machines not take over Zion once they used Neo to kill agent Smith(s)? Don't they still need humans as battery power?

2) What happened to all the humans in Zion? We see the Oracle & the Architect suddenly being chummy (which also makes no sense), but what happens to all the humans that were batteries for the machines? They're all free and get to see the ugly world now?

3) Um, what the fuck happened to Neo after he zapped Agent Smith?

4) How in the fuck did Neo manage to get into the Matrix w/ out being plugged in? They didn't explain that very well at all.

Here's some more questions about the MATRIX:

Why do they wear dark sunglasses in dimly lit places?

How does doing flips prevent bullets from hitting you?

Why does dying within the Matrix kill the person outside the Matrix, when they know the Matrix is a virtual world?

Why do land-lines work for "pulling a person out" but wireless phones not work? Since the matrix is a virtual world and the wires aren't real, what difference would it make?

<spoiler> Do Spoiler tags work in this forum? </spoiler>

Mr. Grene Genes

I think it's called "Leave-the-franchise-open-and-see-if-we-can-squeeze-any-more-cash-out-of-it."

DG

For me, half the fun of an alternate reality film is that there can be multiple levels of depth without spelling everything out, or even giving definate conclusions. I get a kick out of just trying to figure things out. I usually don't worry about things like how the earth's sun gives Superman his super powers.

Hell, I loved it. Sure, it had numerous holes, but the writers managed to weave in 45 seconds of philosophical references, which is more than I expect from a major film. Plus there were cool animations, good set design and pince-nez.

I have zero problem with suspension of disbelief, but Matrix went so far as to ignore major rules and issues of substance which were the entire basis for Neo doing what he was doing.

For example: In the first Matrix, we learn that the real world is enslaved to the machines and people are used as batteries, and they exist in an alternate reality called the Matrix to prevent them from becoming aware of their abysmal situation. Neo is The One, and he can save them and destroy the Matrix. Thus you would expect the final film in the series would show how he saves them.

In the Matrix Revolutions, Neo wipes out the virus Agent Smith with the help of the machines, but we never find out what the fuck happens to the real humans who these machines are using as battery power, which I thought was who Neo was trying to save in the first place. It's not made clear whether Neo saves them, or they are still just battery power to machines or what. The whole fucking reason for Neo doing what he is doing is ignored. That's just bad story telling, period. Apparently all Neo does is help the machines survive.

An analogy to doing that would be like if Luke and Han Solo are going after the Death Star, and then they just fight some tie fighters instead and go home.

Oh yeah, and the love story crap between him and Carrie Anne Moss was the hokiest crap I've ever seen on screen. I'd rather watch Anakin swoon Natalie Portman in Episode II again.

Neo's deal with the machines saved Zion, but the human batteries are still plugged in so that there can be a premise for Matrix IV.

*yawn*

I'll second that *yawn*...

If you're bored by discussion of this movie then why are you reading the thread?

I think they're yawning because this is the only thread in the lounges history to stay on topic

New title for Rimmy, eh? Yeah, I'm a list maker, and I'm not ashamed of it. It's an OCD thing....

Gee, I got a new one, too. Feel any better about it, Rimmy?

It's fine with me. I like making lists.

Reasons why I like lists:

1)They help me remember stuff.
2)They're fun.
3)They combat boredom.
4)Abe Vigoda stole my heart.
5)They temporarily relieve anxiety and that pesky impending sense of doom.
6)I like cheese, so why not lists?
7)Top hat, of course.
8)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
9)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
10)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
11)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
12)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
13)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
14)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.
15)I am a little obsessive-compulsive.

Is someone here a Red Dwarf fan? Rimmer, Lister...

My favorite red dwarf...

That's why only Lodz drinks the absinthe now.

...

That is sick. Funny, but sick.

The only thing I could think of about the people getting unplugged or not in the end was a reference from the 1st Matrix. Morpheus saying that they try not to unplug people once they get to a certain age, cause they can't handle it or they just wouldn't want to wake up in a shit world. Either way that deffinately is a hole in the ending where ya gotta find up your own scenario.

And the love thing? Yeah, I just about barfed when Carrie Ann ran off the train to embrace Keanue.

I liked Matrix 3. I thought it ended up the story nicely. Neo dies, BTW, and humans and Machines live two seperate lives. Yay!

But I have to disagree with you Larry, (OMG, like, for the first time EVER! ) the love story in star wars is sooooooooooo bad, I about barfed. There is NO chemistry between the two of them. Cardboard cutouts indeed.

I saw it this weekend. What a total piece of shit.

Oh, but dude, I thought it was soooo cool when all the machines made the shape of a fat babys face so it could talk to Neo, and Neo was like, Machine Dude, I can stop Virus Dude if you make peace with the Zion Dudes, and so the machine dudes were like "OK dude", and then Neo fights the virus dude for a really long time, then stops after flying around a lot, and the virus dude tries to infect Neo, but then the virus dude dies because, um , um, well I don't know why he dies but he just does, and then the universe is saved and that black lady and that white guy sit on a bench in heaven and it's all pretty and stuff...

Piece of shit.

Didn't the architect say at the end that he would free those that chose to be free to the oracle? I was pretty fiiked up when I saw it but didn't he say that. Wouldn't a better question be how they are presented with this decision? Conscience or Subconscience? It would be like the rapture.


Neo and Smith were poalr opposites (ying/yang) once the two merged they cancelled each other out. As far as the machines needing the humans for battery power, "There are certian levels of survival we are prepared to accept"--said the architect.


A good question would be why humans? Couldn't they just harness the electrokinetik energy of water? Never need to recharge. Maybe they just hate the humans so much they were like ---blEEp--blOOp--- fuck it! That said,,,doesn't the architect look like Colonel Sanders? it's a truce in the end

---this text has been edited for the reading pleasure of one "Mr. Liver"
----also it now contains 6% of your daily recommended allowance of Dietary Fiber which <<by the way>> our demographic canvassing has shown not only extends life but.......Kids Love It!!!------kisses *giggle*

That was a big square of letters I didn't read.

Ditto.

perhaps as a consolation I can offer you a big DICK filled with happy love juice for your sucking enjoyment mr. liver?

I sure he'll pass on that one.

:PTFA:

Your addressing the original ENORMOUS DICK.

There should be a spelling error in Enormous.