Nepenthes
Feb 29 2004, 06:15 AM
I just received seeds for Artemisia glacialis and have seeds for A.a. and A genepi on the way. What sort of conditions do they like, i.e. quantity of sun and soil conditions?
Louched Liver
Feb 29 2004, 06:35 AM
Hm, I'd heard glacialis was a bit hard to
come by.
Congrats if I'm right for 1nce.
DrinkSlinger
Feb 29 2004, 09:08 AM
If what you have is truly what you say it is (How do you REALLY know) it might be tough to get it to "sprout".
From my understanding the seeds are pretty tough to get going. Live plants are the way to go.
As for climate. The plants you listed are from alpine areas. So they like it relatively dry, with tough soil. I'd avoid areas that are too hot or in the sun for the entire day.
The A.A. Will grow anywhere. It's a weed. So that should be no problem.
Nepenthes
Feb 29 2004, 09:20 AM
I am fairly confident that the seeds are as named. They came from B & T World Seeds. But as you say, how do you know for sure.
sixela
Mar 1 2004, 04:49 AM
QUOTE(DrinkSlinger @ Feb 29 2004, 06:10 PM)
The A.A. Will grow anywhere.
Nope. It needs well-drained soil or it'll just whither. I know - I've got a side of my garden with clay ground, and the other just has sandy soil, and the A. a. doesn't want to grow in the clay.
I assume it also likes basic soil rather than acid soil, but it appears less picky in that respect.
DrinkSlinger
Mar 1 2004, 04:56 AM
...all right then. It'll grow almost anywhere. It will however, do better in drier well drained soil.
Le Gimp
Mar 5 2004, 08:34 PM
I planted some up on the hill to the west of the hous late last fall. I'm curious to see if it comes up this year. I have half the seeds left in case nothing comes up.
I suppose I should try peat cups to start the seeds in and then trans plant them.
DrinkSlinger
Mar 6 2004, 12:21 AM
The seeds are hard to germinate... oddly enough.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 6 2004, 07:17 AM
I think I'm gonna plant some in the front yard. It's the perfect spot for growing, plus it'll make a nice decorative shrub.
DG
Le Gimp
Mar 6 2004, 07:33 AM
I'll start some in peat pots then, just in case.
Louched Liver
Mar 6 2004, 08:11 AM
I have Arty Vulgaris growing by the little
patio outside the kitchen. Seemed only
fitting to have wormwood on the Mayoral
grounds.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 6 2004, 10:39 AM
I thought worm wood was what they call that thing in your pants.
<insert rimshot here>
DG
Louched Liver
Mar 6 2004, 11:02 AM
Um, no.
ENORMUS DICK
Kirk
Mar 9 2004, 12:31 PM
Mug wort (common) Artemesia Vulgaris
Modern uses:
The leaves and roots are used.
It is a remedy for scanty menstruation and is taken as an infusion in teaspoonful doses. 1 teaspoon to a cup of boiling water.
As a nervine it is useful for convulsions, a teaspoon powdered , is taken with water three times a day.
In the seventeenth century Nicholas Culpeper wrote:The fresh herb or juice is a remedy for the taking of too much opium. The powdered leaves taken in wine is a speedy and certain help for sciatica
Le Gimp
Mar 9 2004, 12:41 PM
How vulgar.
I told my wife I was making 'Wormwood Wings' the other night. The loos reference to the russian word for wormwood escaped her.
The wings weren't hot enough. I only used 1/4 cup of home made hab sauce, 1tsp hab extract (Krakatoa) and a half bottle of another hab sauce. Dropped the wings in the sauce and let them set for 20 minutes while I got th oil hot. Rolled the wings in flower, salt and pepper, and fried them.
Next time I'm using a full Tablespoon of Krakatoa.
greeneyes
Mar 9 2004, 01:39 PM
Interesting. I recently looked up medicinal uses of gentian and discovered that it is recommended for easing gastric complaints and bringing on menstruation.
Kirk
Mar 9 2004, 01:49 PM
Wormwood (sea) Artemisia Maritima
Modern uses:
This possesses similar properties as A.A. and A.P. but not as potent as the first.
It is usually used as a substitute to artemesia absinthium by country people who know its virtues. The flowering tops are collected and dried and given as an infusion for digestive problems. It is also useful for intermittent fever. Prolonged use is not recommended.
Cullpeper said " Hysteric complaints have been cured by this tinctture. In scurvy and in hypochondriacal disorders few remedies have greater effect than when this is taken in strong infusion."
Porkio
Mar 11 2004, 08:44 AM
QUOTE(Le Gimp @ Mar 9 2004, 03:37 PM)
The loos reference to the russian word for wormwood escaped her.
Chernobyl?
Le Gimp
Mar 11 2004, 07:47 PM
Yup. Chernobyl Hot wings. Except they were not as hot as I had hoped. For some reason, frying them seems to moderate the heat of the sauce. Tasty any way.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 16 2004, 05:44 PM
What???? Don't you add the hot sauce/butter mixture to the wings AFTER the frying?????
What's wrong with you people?!?!?!?!?
DG
A.B. Normal
Mar 16 2004, 06:36 PM

Before AND after.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 16 2004, 07:32 PM
Now I've done that with onion rings, but never wings. Hmmm ...
I still think you people are on crack.
DG
Le Gimp
Mar 17 2004, 06:23 AM
I consider wings to be fried chicken. Fried chicken, you eat just the way it comes out of the frier.
We used to eat a lot of chicken wings and livers when I was young. They used to be the cheapest cuts of chicken till someone made them a snack food and ruined it.
Gizzards and hearts I can do without. They are catfood.
Le Gimp
Mar 17 2004, 06:27 AM
The Artemesia (Powis Castle) that I planted last year seems to have died after my having cut it back to near ground level. The other Attemesia in the yard that were not cut back survived.
So much for cutting it back.
No sign of the A.A. coming up where I sowed seeds last fall. I'll try putting the rest in peat cups and see if they will sprout.
The Veronica Offiicialis is sprouting after having been cut back.
Louched Liver
Mar 17 2004, 08:26 AM
*whew*
Thanks, Spucky.
I was wondering if I should hack back
the Vulgaris I planted last year, guess
not.
Le Gimp
Mar 17 2004, 09:05 AM
In the future, I'm going to try trimmin it back in stages to allow some branches to recover and keep some of it fresh at all times.
Winter this year didn't get below about 8f, so I'm not sure this will work druing a bad winter. I'll just have to cover it with straw or something if it gets really cold.
I've seen a lot of Dusty Miller (Artemisia Stelleriana) around here that no one protects. It doesn't aexactly thrive in clay soil, but it seems to hold it's own.
Louched Liver
Mar 17 2004, 09:17 AM
I'm jabbin' a bunch o' Dusty Millers in
the one of the tree wells by the street
because the one I put there last year is
still there. Fuck all those flowers that
couldn't cut it.
Besides, it's the Mayor's joint, gotta have
some arty out front.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 17 2004, 06:03 PM
I'm thinking Pink Flamingos.....
DG
balzdeep
Mar 17 2004, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(Le Gimp @ Mar 17 2004, 08:19 AM)
Gizzards and hearts I can do without. They are catfood.
Screw the organ meat, give me something I can chew! That or fry it hard enough to make it chewy (I've had mountain oysters that were more than a little soft in the middle -- not bad till you think of what is soft -- no good!). Liver and kidney can't be cooked enough in my opinion.
DGLeadbetter
Mar 18 2004, 10:58 PM
Screw the organ meat?
Isn't that the point?
DG
Nepenthes
Mar 28 2004, 06:52 PM
Well, the Artemisia glacialis has sprouted. With any luck they will make it in the highly variable Minnesota climate.
toddk63
Apr 13 2004, 05:49 AM
My A.A. seeds sprouted with vigor a couple of weeks ago. The sprouts are about 1" tall now. My Hyssop seeds haven't done squat. Heirloom Seeds, where I got these from, said the A.A. would be more finicky. They also said hyssop could take 3 weeks to sprout, but its been at least that long now. Anybody had success germinating hyssop seeds indoors?
Le Gimp
Apr 13 2004, 06:55 AM
None of the AA seeds I planted last fall came up yet.
Wife mowed my Veronica Officialis.

It may recover.
Powis Castle has not come back up.

(Probably not a loss.)
I wonder if it is too late to order A.P., A.A. and Melissa sets from Richters?
Off. Jack Batemaster
Apr 13 2004, 08:17 AM
QUOTE(toddk63 @ Apr 13 2004, 07:49 AM)
...They also said hyssop could take 3 weeks to sprout, but its been at least that long now. Anybody had success germinating hyssop seeds indoors?
I'm not really sure why you'd want to grow Hyssop from seed? Every nursery I've been to sells Hyssop plants.
Crosby
Apr 13 2004, 11:53 AM
QUOTE(Le Gimp @ Apr 13 2004, 07:55 AM)
I wonder if it is too late to order A.P., A.A. and Melissa sets from Richters?
They still haven't shipped the plants I ordered two months ago.
Off. Jack Batemaster
Apr 13 2004, 11:55 AM
They still haven't shipped plants I ordered 8 months ago!
Le Gimp
Apr 13 2004, 11:59 AM
Good, they are holding them for me. I will order them now.
Louched Liver
Apr 13 2004, 01:25 PM
My 40 oz. beer tree didn't sprout.
toddk63
Apr 13 2004, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(Off. Jack Batemaster @ Apr 13 2004, 12:17 PM)
[I'm not really sure why you'd want to grow Hyssop from seed? Every nursery I've been to sells Hyssop plants.
I agree. I tried that route first. No luck, so I ordered the seeds.
Kirk
Apr 14 2004, 04:53 AM
QUOTE(Off. Jack Batemaster @ Apr 13 2004, 03:55 PM)
They still haven't shipped plants I ordered 8 months ago!
They try to ship so that you receive them at the time you should plant them. If you order right after planting season they will wait until the next year.
Off. Jack Batemaster
Apr 14 2004, 09:09 AM
How could you possibly kill Hyssop plants?
Le Gimp
Apr 14 2004, 09:12 AM
Lawn mower usually works well.
Kirk
Apr 14 2004, 09:15 AM
Mine like abuse.
Kirk
Apr 16 2004, 08:46 AM
I have the two plug tray deal coming from Richters, 90 plugs of A.A.
And a dozen A.P's . I'm making a border with it , all around my garden,
that should keep those pesky deer out of it.
With the climate here in the mountains it should be some pretty fragrant stuff.
Le Gimp
Apr 16 2004, 09:09 AM
I hadn't thought of that Kirk. Might be a good Idea. We have a yearling doe that has taken up residence near our house. This wouldn't be unusual at my last house since I was right near Buffalo mountain. However, I am well inside the city now. TWRA does not capture and relocate deer and bear unless they are an immediate threat to people. They told me to ignore it and hope it goes away.
lambchop
Apr 16 2004, 09:13 AM
Shoot it and eat it, I say.
gasspectro
Apr 16 2004, 09:19 AM
The deer will love the AA and AP.
Kirk
Apr 16 2004, 09:38 AM
They like it?
Le Gimp
Apr 16 2004, 10:00 AM
I'm not going to shoot it, that would make too much noise. I'm gona kill it with a knife. Much quieter.
Le Gimp
Apr 16 2004, 09:38 PM
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